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would make for some silly looking images. The thumbnail version gives a great overview of the image. Viewing in full size offers more detail. And that would be the smart way to do it in my opinion. Laziness or privileged information has nothing to do with it. And while "adages" are all warm and fuzzy in an Uncle Remus sort of way, I would prefer you point to actual FP criteria written in cold hard text so everyone can see it and no one has to guess what the current adages are.
51: 567:. I was looking for what the colours mean, and it's frustrating to go looking for information that is not there/relevant, so I believe this simple fix should be executed. If the picture is found to have no appeal with uniform colours, then it also had none with random colours. What we're trying to convey is information, not fuzzy sensations at meaningless multicoloration. 676:
in response to some of the comments. Colors are consistent, foot conversion added to lengths, scale bar toned down a little and "Seawise Giant" added to biggest ship to (hopefully) reduce confusion. In addition, all the text bits are now actual text so they can be more easily edited/translated. This
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I think "fine" is the last description that applies in its current state. The adage has always been that FPs should stand on their own at main page size, and in that sense, this is definitely below par. There is no possible reason other than laziness that one kind of information should be privileged
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Since the colours of the ships don't seem to mean anything in particular, I suggest that the same two colours (one consistently for above waterline, one consistently for below waterline) be used for all ships. Of the listed combinations, red-bottom and grey-top seems sensible, although blue-bottom
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Again, to repeat what I said above... it has more to do with appearance than one bit of information being more worthy than another. The text is the size it is because it looks best that way. And you're missing an important point... the text is secondary. The main purpose of the image is the visual
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Laziness? I think you're way off base. In a technical image (of which this is a simple one), it's perfectly reasonable to scale the text size to the image... NOT blow up all the text in a clumsy attempt to make everything always legible at thumbnail size. I would argue that's just plain stupid and
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While I understand the seeking of uniformity, I would suggest the varied colors do not really disrupt the readers' understanding by any significant amount. Actually, I think the colors might even add to the visual appeal... they also emphasize that these are a series of
596:- Yes, it is useful and has obvious ev. But I see nothing extraordinary justying the status. In my opinion, it lacks the sophistication of most of our featured illustrations. By the way, the distance scale is awfull! 87: 143:
could we perhaps have underneath the images of each of the ships, what type of ships they are; oil tanker, cargo ship(?), passenger vessel and military? I think that would make it more informative --Thanks,
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the largest"... that's good and hopefully will carry into the article. The QE2 is case in point... it's not the largest passenger ship by length but it is by weight. I found that a bit confusing at first.
461:-- Informative, well put together, very encyclopedic and adds interest to any article its in. Plus it's in SVG format so it can be easily changed, updated, translated, etc. 728: 399:
Maybe it should be mentioned in the caption that Knock Nevis/Seawise Giant/Jahre Viking was scrapped in 2010. Other than that, a very nice and informative diagram.
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representation of differing ship sizes. If you removed all text except the names of the ships it would still convey 98% of the information it is meant to convey.
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nonetheless. Though it has okay enc. and looks much cleaner than it did at the start, I don't feel that this is one of the "top" images on Knowledge (XXG).
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I think s/he means the scale at the bottom. A grid would theoretically be better, but it would make the picture less pleasing to look at, methinks.
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This is a very illustrative and educational diagram of some of the largest ships of different kinds. It has high EV and even shows the waterline.
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As above I can see why it is informative, but I can't see it as part of wikipedia's best work, and not worthy of FP in my opinion.
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You haven't answered the question, which was: why is one kind of information judged worthy of a larger font size than the other?
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I understand the purpose of the different colors on individual ships, but why do different ships have different colors?
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All objections should be accompanied by a specific rationale that, if addressed, would make you support the image.
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be visible/legible at thumbnail size. That's why it's a thumbnail. I think it's fine as it is.
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I noticed that somewhere along the line the photo caption changed from "the largest" to "
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Yeah, I changed it to bring it closer to the article wording. I had missed the "some".
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Just to stir the pot a little, what could be addressed to make you support the image?
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thanks for taking my comments onboard. I think it looks a lot better now --Thanks,
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I think it would look bad with that text large as well. It's not necessary that
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image won't achieve FP status, but maybe these changes made it a better image.
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Requested at the lab. I don't have Corel Draw or a similar SVG editor anymore.
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to be legible at least in a main page sized thumbnail, if not article-sized?
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Knowledge (XXG):Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Diagrams
57:– A comparison of some of the largest ships of five different classes 49: 361:: Knock Nevis doesn't even seem to be included in the main list. 498:
At the top of this page in the How to Comment section it says
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Knowledge (XXG):Featured picture candidates
Comparison of the largest ships

List of world's longest ships
Seawise Giant
Emma Mærsk
Knowledge (XXG):Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Diagrams
Notafish
Maxrossomachin
Crisco 1492
talk
03:25, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Aaadddaaammm
talk
18:37, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Hadseys
22:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
JBarta
talk
01:04, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Crisco 1492
talk
06:42, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
List of world's longest ships
JBarta
talk
19:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Hadseys
22:54, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Samsara

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