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526:, but if fixed, count this as a comment—Description page problems: No links for the artists or publisher in the summary. I see we have an article at least on the first-named. Why not put more of the info from the original site in the description page summary? The performance and recording are good for the day. --
537:. I posted in Talk:FSC that you should just list the description pages that need work there when you see them from now on, I'm good at fixing those. I would certainly hope though that if you believe the performances themselves are up to standard, you'd remove the opposes when the file descriptions are fixed.
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Sven, we went through this at FAC about four years ago ... reviewers were sometimes told to fix things themselves and not complain. Fortunately, it was made clear that reviewers review. I do believe it's up to nominators to fix the SDP. The exception to reviewer collaboration might be if a reviewer
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That's all well and good except for two things. First, most people don't really know how to do a good FDP, and second, I would hope that if a reviewer's only reason for opposing something is that the FDP is bad, that that reviewer will at the very least strike the oppose when the FDP is fixed. I
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don't know about FAC, but I know that at GAN the reviewer will list things that need fixing, then give it time for them to be fixed. If everything is fixed, the reviewer passes it, "well it started off wrong so it'll fail even though what was wrong was fixed." If there's anything that
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208:- on page 68, it says the Haydn Quartet was first. They were September 8, 1908 - same month as this - so this was very early, but, at least according to the only reliable source we have, not first. We can still say "One of the first".
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Not untrue. But this discussion is drifting into irrelevance. Let's fix the FDP first; I don't care who does it (heck, I'll do it myself if someone will tell me how). And then we'll all hopefully listen to some Haydn and calm down.
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If you're going to oppose things solely on the basis of description pages, there are two options that I would steer you to for the future. 1) Fix the issues yourself, or 2) Make the request for me to fix it at
266:: Surprisingly good recording for the year. Even if it's not the earliest, it's still very early, and that's an advantage, as it puts it in the original context better. It'll need cited if it's to be used on
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You have the right to say "Oppose: FDS is wrong, go fix it." I have the right, even if I'm not the nominator, to fix it myself. I would hope that once I do so, you would reconsider the oppose vote.
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I tried mixing them like you suggested, the problem still persists. We could always revert it, the noise in the previous version gave it an air of authenticity, but it is a little distracting. --
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Unfortunately, it creates a lot of these quiet mechanical sounds. I can't support the noise-removed version. Try mixing the noise-removed version with the original at about 20-50% volume.
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