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which is supported by discussion within the article. This aspect is not covered by any free images. Further, there are not "dozens" of free images. They are very limited. Please try counting. Last time you nominated an image for deletion from this article, your complaint was that there were "dozens" of unfree images. Now there are "dozens" of free? Please assume good faith in making nominations here. Thanks
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