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opinion, could it be argued that removing the image would be detrimental to the reader's understanding per NFCC#8. Moreover, and a bit nitpicky perhaps, the point of the article is not to honor the person; The article is supposed to simply reflect what reliable sources say (or said) about the event as neutrally as possible. The article says that Lebrun won the event. There is also a stand alone article about Lebrun where the image can be seen. "Honoring the person" implies decorative usage which is not something allowed by the NFCC, so I agree with Stefan2 about it's use the Olympic article. --
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required by NFCC#8. As Stefan2 says above, this particular image is not needed to illustrate how sailors appeared at the time (if that is even relevant to this particular article) if that's the sole purpose. I guess it is possible that the image may be old enough or some how qualify as public domain.
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Invalid nomination. Of course the representation and the availability of other suitable images is as relevant to an article on the fossil species as it would be to articles on either the fossil specimen, or an article on the particular photograph. Unless you are claiming that, per #1, there are many
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If both of these images are irreplaceable, I have no objections to deletion. But I'd like more details on specifically why they're irreplaceable (more specific than "complete skeletons of these species are apparently highly unusual" - if all surviving complete stethacanthid skeletons are unavailable
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I am not an expert in this type of discussion. I want to add that: unlike world cinema, every Bollywood movies are musical, whether war, action, horror there will be many songs. I can't put any Knowledge (XXG) argument related to images. By the way, the article can be developed. Old Bollywood movies
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If you're claiming that the reader's understanding of those differences is significantly improved by seeing the image, then such differences should be clearly discussed within the article and such discussion should reflect what reliable source say and not what we as editors say. Only then, in my
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Removed from userpage (per NFCC#9) and articles where no non-free use rationale has been provided (per NFCC#10c). Agree that non-free usage is not needed in the remaining articles per No. 17 of NFC#UUI. I am wondering, however, if the image is simple enough to qualify for
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I have no opinions on the other articles. It's as useful in a list article as any other non-free character illustration is. Non-free isn't accepted in the user: namespace and any use of it for drafting should be done with links to it or placeholders, not by embedding.
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Is that in favour or against keeping these images (the only purpose of this page)? Are you claiming that the uploader has some sort of COI? That they're perhaps some ancient shark uploading selfies? Otherwise your point, and why you chose to make it, makes no sense.
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and use one of the alternative to FFD such as what you suggested when it is obvious that an image does not satisfy the NFCC. NFCC#8 removals, however, can occasionally be contentious so I figured it was best to ask here. --
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for each of the aforementioned articles, but only the usage in "Cleveland State Vikings" seems appropriate because it is the main article about the university's athletic teams. I don't think the non-free logo is needed in
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If there is any shortage of discussion in the prose of this article, then the fix for that is to increase the text of the article. The subject matter, our real fixed point in all of this, clearly justifies use of the
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File:Fossil of a complete Stethacanthid sp. skeleton. Akmonistion zangerli specimen HMV8246 of the Hunterian Museum, University of Glasgow. Photograph taken by Dr. Keith Ingham, published in Coates & Sequeira
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File:Fossil of a complete Stethacanthid sp. skeleton. Akmonistion zangerli specimen HMV8246 of the Hunterian Museum, University of Glasgow. Photograph taken by Dr. Keith Ingham, published in Coates & Sequeira
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Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that the image should be deleted. I think its non-free usage is acceptable in the stand-alone article, but that it should be removed from the "Jews and slave trade article". --
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supported usage of the Florida Gators logo in only the main article about the university's athletic teams. I do not see any reason why No. 17 of NFC#UUI should not be applied the same way here. --
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File:Drawing of ''Stethacanthus altonensis'', M.V.2830, first dorsal fin and spine. From LUND, R. (1974) ''Stethacanthus altonensis'' (Elasmobranchii) from the Bear Gulch Limestone of Montana.pdf
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Compare the picture with one of a sailor of today in a Laser (Similair size dinghy) and you get an idea of the differences in athmosphere in time and culture between 1932 and now.
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If you just want to delete it from one page, you can just go ahead and do it, and if you get opposition, you can raise the issue at the article talk page instead of here. --
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for taking freely licensed photos of, where are they and how did they get there)? Someone in the know can tell me here, at the other image's entry, or on my talk page.
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When deleting the only image would also obvious damage an article so significantly, it's also good practice to tag that article and the image within it with
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Thanks again; you've been very helpful in this discussion. A month ago, I was very distracted from many things here, so I totally missed that. --
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other free images of such fossils to choose from (you have made no indication that there are), then none of this is reason to delete the image.
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could be possibly used in the individual team articles without any real loss of information if the teams do not have their own specific logos.
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FWIW, the merge only happened a month or so ago. There are still some kinks being worked out, one of which is whether it's better to be
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Removed from userpage per NFCC#9 for time being until this is sorted. Can always be re-added if the image turns out to be free. --
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There is no sourced critical discussion about the atmosphere of the event, so we do not need any pictures illustrating this. See
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in that it is used to talk about the skeleton of Stethacanthidae and not the image itself or its publication.
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is in-policy, so there is no reason to delete the file. The solution is simply to remove the image from the
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Another problem with the image is that it is being used in a gallery which is generally not allowed per
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EXIF says "© John Kelly / RBO / Camera Press / Retna Ltd." which suggests that the picture violates
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picture of a sailor from that time, not necessarily a sailor who participated in the Olympics. See
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at all since that usage appears to be purely decorative and does not even come close to satisfying
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List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens (0–9, A–G)
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as there is one universal main logo for all athletics.--
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