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1415:. None of these alternative versions themselves are the subject of any sourced commentary within the article (despite the claim in the non-free use rationale for each file that "the image is itself a subject of discussion in the article"), and using them as extra album covers seem unnecessary because the only real differences between them and 3018:§7 inapplicable. We often allow limited use of non-free photos to illustrate articles of deceased individuals where no non-free photo is available or can be created. Now that the source is more specifically identified and given that the subject is deceased I see no reason to disallow use of this image in the subject's biographical article. 2943:
evidence of a market in photographs of him, our limited use is not "likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted material" for the Chronicle. In the case of press agency photographs, it can be argued that licensing photographs is more central to their business model, which provides a basis for
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Various non-free screenshots/screen captures of news opens, etc. taken from YouTube and other site which are being used in articles about TV stations. Purely decorative usage since none of these images are really the subject of any sourced commentary at all within their respective articles and also
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does not require that we entirely avoid using press photos; respect for commercial opportunities requires that we not use a non-free photo if doing so would be likely to replace the original market role of the copyrighted photograph. Where, as here, the subject is now deceased and there is no
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You wrote: "Fails WP:NFCC#10a: the source link is dead" which is an imaginary rule. When I asked you to quote the exact rule, you three times blustered more nonsense, and are still doing it. That is why I question your utility in being involved in these cases, it seems you aren't grasping the
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and saying "we require uploaders to provide sources". Your game is silly and wasting everyone's time. A chatbot can be programmed to give better information. And please stop saying "we", it is just you. Maybe you are not qualified for reviewing images, you don't seem to know the rules.
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OK, now you are three times wrong, are you going for a fourth? Even the dead link showed the credit line for the image, even though the image was no longer visible: "Photo: Chronicle Photo / Chronicle Photo". Also please quote the exact rule you are using, just waiving you hand toward
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their deletion. These were uploaded a long time ago, when I was still just partially familiarized with our fair-use policies. I should have simply CSDed them with G7, but the idea just never occurred to me - I actually forgot I had uploaded that many covers for that single.
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is not sufficient. Anyone can say that the answer is in the Bible, but you have to quote the chapter and verse. The word "prove" does not appear anywhere on that page, just as your rule on a active URL does not appear anywhere. Please stop using
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My point is that it's a hard technical sell to make the case for a missing link justifying deletion. If that were the only issue, I'd !vote to keep the image. However, UUI 7 has me thinking the image may fail NFCC, though I'm still considering.
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If the picture has been published with the tagline "Photo: Chronicle Photo / Chronicle Photo", then this suggests that this is a press photograph. This means that we still do not have any evidence that this isn't a press photo, as required per
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Having now looked further at the Chronicle source, I see that it identifies the photo as A "Chronicle Photo", ruling out the possibility that this photo is from a press agency such as AP or a photo agency such as Corbis, making
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Can you quote the actual guide that you are using as the basis of your deletion nomination. You keep saying that we need a working url, but I cannot find that !wikilaw anywhere. Where are you getting this rule from?
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this particular image is not significant enough to justify fair use as the main image illustrating the article. Free images can be obtained by requesting them from people who took photos of him while he was alive.
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image deleted from commons; if the NFCC requires a cite book as interpreted, then revise the policy, and provide all the references for the existing material. until then stop raising the bar without consensus.
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are not needed for the reader to understand that these stations offer news programming at certain times of the day or used a certain logo at one point in time. All of these should be removed per
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requires a source, i.e. information on where to locate a copy of the image. There is currently no such information as the URL in the FUR's source field doesn't point to a copy of the image. --
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can be verified. If a picture comes from the Internet, a working URL is needed in order to verify the information. If a picture comes from a printed source, information corresponding to
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requires the uploader to prove that the image is not a press photo. Proving this is not currently possible, given the information provided on the file information page. --
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is. However, Stefan2 does have a point about UUI 7: the image is used to identify the subject, and there is no discussion about the image. —
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These files are orphans and of very low quality and, even though they are free, I find it highly unlikely that they will ever be useful.
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I agree with removing it from the "personality" page. The uploader is ArbCom banned so they won't be allowed to respond, anyway.
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I don't see anything in NFCC 10a that requires a link to a source; it only requires that the source be identified, and the
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concepts, they are eluding you. Or, you are pretending to not understand, just to entertain yourself. --
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Thanks, great find! It looks like they switched to an album format with arrows for multiple images. --
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per the above comments made by others. I have nothing to add to the reasons already given. ···
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Comment - Just notifying that I was able to update the source dead link.
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2701:, specifically NFCC#10a does not require a working link. -- 2632:
requires a source so that compliance with criteria such as
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