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different body it has separate logo ATK Mohun Bagan FC logo. So it will be highly confusing for any reader who is not familar with the club to indentify these entities and thus the images are used as the primary means of visual identification of the individual subjects. Currently, there is a long dicussion going on about splitting or creating new articles regarding the club and its football entity ATK MB. So it will be unnecessary for these logos to be deleted as will be needed when separate article will be there for MB AC and ATK MB FC.
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Kolkata ..but also people out of India too.. for them It will be confusing to see another logo and name ..better you keep the logo.. because the ISL official site clearly shows the name and logo of ATK mohun Bagan .. and also the football team has different management which include Sanjeev Goenka, Utsav Parekh etc .. it is not right to not include their names .. so it will be better to create different page for football team if Mohun Bagan AC. This us my humble opinion ..
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Athletic club. Both are representing different body/org. Hence, it's very important for the page to give an idea to the reader which body is represented by which logo. And, since the article is about an athletic club which is predominantly about football, it should have the football identity mentioned in it.
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