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1740:" and "a tempo of 108 beats per minute" without the sample, right? If audio identification, i.e. audio recognition, helps the portion itself be contextually significant enough to the song, then... well, great. However, sadly, I'm unconvinced how and why the portion I'm listing here has done more than just helping readers recognize the portion itself. 1164:, even when it's not a song portion. Readers can listen to other whole (and I mean "whole"... or full) song recordings to further understand the genre/music if they wish. Meanwhile, I still can't tell from the sample represents either typical rock music or heavy rock. It would belong in the band article 2422:
Uploaded this as free, but I've not yet seen any Enterprise Records logo as free to use in Commons. Honestly, I really thought the logo using a crescent and a circle to form an "E" substitute isn't minimally creative for US copyright. Also, I really thought the big rainbow logo are just using simple
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Reading the article, I think readers may understand musical terms, which I think are not that musically challenging, and song references without the sample. I heard lyrics (probably the chorus) and the music in the sample, but I think they would be easy to convey and summarize in text, making the
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is necessary to convey the sounds of the genre... or the music. The article doesn't mention the song outside the captions. Furthermore, the song article barely has or doesn't have sufficient critical commentary to justify/support the song portion. Moreover, hopefully, the text can help readers
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The whole song may have received more YouTube and Spotify views. However, unconvinced that the exact portion of first verse heard in the sample is proven as contextually significant to the whole song. The lyrics I heard in the sample are potentially easy to summarize in text.
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still doesn't excuse the sample's potential failure to comply with NFCC. Well, I think "without any objection" was editors' preoccupancy with other articles and probably hadn't bothered to challenge the use of the sample. BTW, there are free audio clips of the
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sample potentially redundant. Furthermore, the "Music and lyrics" section, into where I pulled the sample down from the infobox, mentions other songs but is kinda brief on the song itself. Moreover, I think an average reader may understand "
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Many Thais who recall the full name do so because of its use in the 1989 song "Krung Thep Maha Nakhon" by Thai rock band Asaneeā€“Wasan, the lyrics of which consist entirely of the city's full name, repeated throughout the
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To clarify more what should be done, if ineligible for copyright, then it should be transferred to Commons. Otherwise, no objections to deletion if being non-free is implied.
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The result of the discussion was: Procedural close/not actionable. Open for a couple weeks with no comments. Please direct specific source/copyright questions to
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the subject of commentary of the article), and it is proposed that plain text explanation is sufficient in describing the content. The file therefore violates
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Only posted short rationale just to quickly list the image, but I'll provide more. The Enterprise Records was a US label belong to US company
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Thanks for your additional information. Regarding Sam's defence on contextual significance, it requires the fair use content to
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violation. No prejudice to restoration if the article is significantly expanded to explicitly discuss this sample in-depth -
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A dollar sign posing as an "S" in a black box and the whole cursive typeface don't make the whole logo sufficient for the
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shapes to form a simple crescent half of the logo. Perhaps I can stand corrected about the whole image.
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as of date, and even when the sample's length can be trimmed down, I wonder whether a portion of
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Two separate images, both are unused derivative works of presumably non-free book covers.
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last year was removed recently for lacking consensus. Even with the "referenced" criteri
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since there is enough critical commentary to justify its inclusion in the song article.
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in Commons if anyone wants to learn more about the language.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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in 2012, though it generated no further input then. --
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