Knowledge

:Help desk/Archives/2022 July 27 - Knowledge

Source 📝

460:
law, same terms, just the code is update to remove rules or wording that requires people to be of opposite sex) or for "parallel" legislations that may be in different law than where marriage is definied, or with suspicious wording that may point to same-sex and opposite-sex marriage to be different or meant to diverge over time? 3. Likewise, how do we define lesser forms of recognition of same-sex unions? 4. What are the watersheds? 5. What do we do for Andorra and Slovenia, until it's clear the legal status of same-sex "marriage" in those two countries?
282:, but a process for determining consensus. It seems you've already started a discussion with involved editors, and reading the discussion I don't think getting other editors involved will change much. The current consensus is to rely on what reliable sources say, the standard option for wikipedia. Your proposal seems to require editors to make judgement based on variably-interpretable criteria, which tends to lead to more issues than it solves, especially for something as often controversial as military occupation. 252:"Military or belligerent occupation, often simply occupation, is provisional control by a ruling power over a territory, without a claim of formal sovereignty. The territory is then known as the occupied territory and the ruling power the occupant. Occupation is distinguished from annexation and colonialism by its intended temporary duration. While an occupant may set up a formal military government in the occupied territory to facilitate its administration, it is not a necessary precondition for occupation." 449:
family code, and it's not entirely impossibile IMHO that the Parliament may chose to go the path of further making already existing same-sex civil unions closer to opposite-sex marriage, while keeping the two things separate. The same-sex unions map of Europe has already been changed to portray Slovenia as a country with same-sex marriage. All the sources for this news seem to be copied from one single source (perhaps a press-release from the consititutional court itself).
809: 445:
pointed out in the discussion pages of the article, the use of a different term for religious and secular "marriage" may point to the fact that indeed what Andorra just passed is a form of civil-unions law which just happens to be extremely similar to marriage. The page is being renamed to **Same-sex marriage in Andorra**, and the Same-sex union map that is often found in LGBT and Europe related articles will probably be changed to portray Andorra.
894: 601:
has highlighted likely hoax activity by various accounts. It seems confined to user pages, so I'm not sure if using the Hoax template is appropriate. It's probably worth tidying up but I'm not sure of the appropriate route for this to happen? I assume just deleting the content isn't appropriate given
325:
Apparently Wikipedians have at some point agreed that Knowledge is not reliable. As I told him a moment ago that´s the most depressing thing I´ve read in a while and it conflicts directly with the fact that plenty of reliable sources say that Knowledge is a reliable source. But I cant bother fighting
146:
So, I am requesting any administrator to block me for probably a year with no compromise (not even talk pages, I feel like myself could "change" my mind latter and suddenly request unblock which current me do not want to, so its a prevention against my future self), fails all my GAN, and my DYKN that
927:
Reading a page, I came across a major fault. It's about the origin of the surname "Viljoen". In the description it says the name comes from Azerbaijan, but when you use the second reference that is given, it clearly shows the name comes from the Netherlands. It's written in Afrikaans, but it clearly
776:
I don’t know where else to put my comments. I hope someone reads this. I contribute $ 5 per month, that is automatically deducted from my account. I am very tired when I am reading about something that I have queried, and your notice pops up asking for a contribution. Then again, and again telling
459:
1. How do we define Civil Union? Is there a need to differentiate Civil Unions in two grades, one for civil unions that are "almost" like marriage but not, and another grade for civil unions that are weaker in rights given? 2. How do we define Same-sex Marriage? Only as full Marriage Equality (same
262:
EDIT: Some guy told me that this is what you guys call "RFC". Would you guys recommend I do a RFC? Are there any other solutions? If my account is not 30 days or older, should I wait before making the RFC? How much can I participate in a RFC? Stuff like this. Basically any good tips you can give me
142:
However, I still feel a need to finish some of my GAN and todolists and Knowledge starts to feel like a chore (I know it shouldnt, there's essay on that). Also its been hard to finish articles and I instead accidently made some articles look worse after my clean up/expansion, in addition that doing
296:
But if Knowledge is an encyclopaedia and we are editors, how can there be a definition that in this case is sourced by several academics and then there are tons of examples of "Military Occupations" that directly conflict with that definition? If I wrote an article like that anywhere, newspaper to
448:
Likewise, the Slovenian high court recently declared limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples inconsistent with the equality clause in Slovenia's constitution, and "legalized same-sex marriage". The ruling is said to be immediately executive, but then the Parliament has to pass law to amend the
340:
Hi. When I was in school I sometimes cited Knowledge (even when my teacher said not to, don't do what I did.) Knowledge is normally reliable because it cites other reliable sources, but it has a very high bar as to what is considered reliable enough to source its articles. So Knowledge should be
225:
Even editing one single articles talk page has taken the better portion of my day, lol. So I really want to avoid spending too much time on this. A lot of people have entrenched positions and Ive realised even ideas that I had that I thought were unique have been discussed before. I have now one
226:
relatively harsh but straightforward solution to the problems the article I am referencing has faced since 2014. I would like to put it up to a vote the way I have seen other things voted on and basically Im content in accepting the outcome of the vote, mostly because I feel exhausted already.
444:
reformed its family law to define "matrimoni" (marriage) as either the (already existing) Roman Catholic canonical marriage or a new "casament" legal instrument that is said to be open to both opposite-sex and same-sex couples, and fully equal to Roman Catholic canonical marriage. Except, as I
245:
My proposal, that would cute a significant portion of those discussions, is that an annexation (or colonization) if intended by the occupying power to be permanent transforms the entity from one currently occupied to one currently annexed (or colonized). This follows the definition found here:
523:
Hi all, I am trying to see if there already exists any wiki code, template, etc. that can automatically create an index of article pages based on a specific category. E.g. Creating an automatic list of any page under the category "sociology" that is then presented A-Z.
419:
Individual pages usually keep an archive of past proposals or requests, but I'm not aware of any unified page for viewing them. As a side note, you have to use two "Wiktionary:"s for that link, one to get to the other wiki, the other to get to the right namespace.
237:
It has faced since 2014 issues and constant discussions about what sources to use in the case of whether or not a takeover of a territory with its polity and governing structure is an occupation. (Recently theres even a conflict on whether or not to merge
827:
None of the Knowledge volunteer editors here who add and improve content in articles receive any financial benefit. We all simply contribute our time because we care about building a great encyclopedia for you and innumerable others around the world to
571:
I was wondering if there exists anything that could generate this page automatically. Presenting all pages (no sub-categories) within a parent category like sociology on one page alphabetically. If this does not exist by anyones knowing, I will ask
452:
A similar case happens with Italy where the same-sex civil-union law passed in 2016 is meant to create a legal device that is 80% equivalent to marriage, but is not marriage itself. Knowledge correctly describe this case as a civil-union case.
868:
I agree with Tenryuu. If $ 5 a month matters to you, stop contributing – the Wikimedia Foundation really doesn't need it. Give it to a charity instead, or buy a beer with it. And take the advice above on suppressing the annoying pop-ups.
255:
Meaning that the terms would be mutually exclusive and that a territory currently "annexed" (illegally or not - but always practically) would be moved to "previously occupied" list as opposed to "currently occupied".
955:
and was part of "ancestry" information recently added by an editor who has added other supposed ancestries to articles about South Africans. I've reverted it as unsourced. Is that the article you're referring to?
375:. If in the article you mentioned there is a consensus about certain things that regularly face change against consensus, maybe you could request a pinned section in the talk page of consensus items, like in the 456:
So we are having a bit of inconsistencies here, both because of how the laws of each country are made, and/or because we assume that still in-fieri legislation is being finalized when editing.
300:
What does variable-interpetable criteria mean? The definition is super clear, some of them just disagree with it/their sources for their pet issues/occupations/annexations differ from that one.
929: 598: 303:
A lot of editors have been chased out. There was far more a plurality of opinion in 2018 according to the archives. BUt people gave up. Maybe I can make them get together again
778: 139:
I really apologize for this bizzare request. I feel I have been struggling mentally and it currently took some toll on my academic life and my physical health recently.
326:
nor do I know how to fight the entire bureaucracy of Knowledge. Plus if the majority has agreed to this then I shouldn´t really be fighting it anymore. Ill just leave.
493:
While I've definitely gotten involved in this discussion over the last couple of weeks, the Help desk is for more general questions. I'd recommend posting at
79:
The page you are currently viewing is an archive page. While you can leave answers for any questions shown below, please ask new questions on one of the
745: 441: 62: 41: 714: 55: 494: 51: 47: 154:
I really apologize for my GAN reviewers that has been very thorough, but I do feel I need a "hard no-compromise enforced" Wiki break now.
327: 304: 264: 933: 341:
reliable enough for reference, but it doesn't meet its own high standards for really reliable sources because it's user generated.
759: 840:
We are led to believe that users who allow cookies are less likely to see these banners on repeat visits (further information
782: 358: 914: 859: 741: 498: 672: 21: 436:
Definition of marriage equality, same-sex marriage, civil unions, registered cohabitation and unregistered cohabitation
722: 565: 479:
on a relevant article talk page. The Help Desk is generally for specific questions about using or editing Knowledge.
402: 777:
me how you have asked me for the 2nd or 3rd time. STOP! Check your files; I am already on the contribution list…
755: 793: 737: 733: 425: 287: 607: 331: 308: 268: 111: 263:
on this would be helpful. If someone has some good examples of well made RFCs that would be fantastic too.
718: 349: 834:, and the Wikimedia Foundation, which hosts the Knowledge platform and is asking for these donations, is 659: 639: 668:
The help desk is for asking question about how to edit Knowledge. It's unclear what you questions are.
205: 199: 165: 126: 965: 937: 918: 878: 863: 786: 763: 749: 726: 700: 663: 611: 584: 556: 533: 510: 488: 469: 429: 413: 390: 362: 335: 312: 291: 272: 209: 184: 169: 128: 115: 831: 802: 798: 687:
is that way, but you could choose to open up a dialogue about inappropriate COI editing first. The
643: 552: 421: 387: 372: 283: 80: 33: 17: 792:
Welcome and thank you for your question about donations! To hide the fundraising banners, you can
239: 603: 544: 409: 354: 107: 103: 910: 874: 855: 568:, but it is currently missing a fair number of pages from it as it is being produced manually. 465: 376: 279: 655: 580: 529: 506: 484: 180: 841: 808: 754:
I've already reverted it, although I didn't provide a specific link, just an explanation.
696: 676: 194: 161: 122: 844:), and you are welcome to communicate directly with the donor-relations team by emailing 106:
and I attempted to redirect page by reading Help pages despite none of them are working.
961: 952: 688: 647: 622: 548: 381: 321:
https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Wikipedia_is_not_a_reliable_source
684: 680: 635: 476: 405: 342: 904: 870: 849: 461: 232: 190: 157:
If the request is not possible, may I know the closest one to what I was thinking?
835: 651: 630: 576: 540: 525: 502: 480: 320: 176: 692: 957: 70: 683:
if it's disruptive). If you believe editors are engaged in sockpuppetry,
593:
Appropriate way/place to report likely fake content on user/talk pages?
561:
Thanks for pointing that out - however it is not what I am looking for.
247: 819:
The Wikimedia Foundation does not track the identity of IP addresses
233:
https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_military_occupations?wprov=srpw1_0
928:
says that François Viljoen left Middelburg(Zeeland, Netherlands).
830:
If you cannot afford it, no one wants you to donate. Knowledge is
717:
should be reverted, but I am not sure what guideline it breaches.
242:
with the above article, as it was done unilaterally by one guy).
240:
https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_military_occupations_since_1907
193:
is probably the better location to request something like this.
160:
Again, apologize for this weird and bizzare request. Thank you~
148: 897: 736:. At a glance, I agree with you the edit should be reverted. 401:
I really like how wiktionary handles their list of proposals
147:
has no QPQ (iirc there's only one, the other one which is
671:
Normal editing can usually resolve NPOV problems, with
626: 259:
My question is how do I start a vote on that proposal?
599:
Knowledge:Miscellany for deletion/User:Emana/Obituary
475:This sort of discussion is probably best done as a 709:Suicide prevention info added to Dignitas article 821:, so it doesn't know your age, income level or 175:It's not so weird. I have done as requested. 371:I recommend you read the policy and guidance 8: 248:https://en.wikipedia.org/Military_occupation 74:Welcome to the Knowledge Help Desk Archives 715:Dignitas (Swiss non-profit organisation) 397:Is there a list of successful proposals? 45: 32: 903:Changed heading to something shorter. — 495:Knowledge talk:WikiProject LGBT studies 61: 951:in close proximity was in the article 39: 7: 930:2A02:A442:FB40:1:E93A:C8EB:E6AB:2346 403:Wiktionary:Wiktionary:Votes/Timeline 713:I'm pretty sure the latest edit to 679:an option if that doesn't work (or 143:research also became very tedious. 102:I want to redirect Anwar Mosque to 317:One of the guys linked me to this: 28: 691:may be able to help you further. 575:Thanks for any help you can give 892: 807: 566:Sociology has its own index page 823:whether you donated in the past 297:journal, I would be questioned. 121:Someone else has now fixed it. 617:Ken Auletta and Matt Dellinger 1: 848:. Thank you!Emphasis mine. — 779:2601:646:8C00:1ED0:0:0:0:1C95 602:it's on User and Talk pages? 499:Template talk:Same-sex unions 278:Discussions on Knowledge are 229:The article in question is: 29: 943:The only place I could find 832:not at risk of shutting down 982: 890: 218:How do I start a proposal? 966:21:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 938:21:28, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 919:21:32, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 879:21:03, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 864:20:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 787:20:44, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 764:18:48, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 750:18:45, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 727:18:42, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 701:18:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 664:18:15, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 612:17:15, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 597:The discussion across at 585:13:47, 28 July 2022 (UTC) 557:15:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 547:and all of its subpages. 534:15:36, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 511:14:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 489:14:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 470:14:13, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 430:15:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 414:14:05, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 391:01:27, 30 July 2022 (UTC) 363:01:00, 28 July 2022 (UTC) 336:23:36, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 313:22:58, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 292:13:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 273:11:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 210:11:12, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 185:11:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 170:10:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 129:08:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 116:07:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC) 519:Automated index function 497:and alerting people at 646:= "Matt Dellinger" on 543:. Just take a look at 756:ScottishFinnishRadish 673:WP:dispute resolution 846:donate@wikimedia.org 440:A couple of days go 189:Although in future, 738:Firefangledfeathers 477:Request for Comment 373:Knowledge:Consensus 98:Redirecting trouble 18:Knowledge:Help desk 842:is available here 640:User:IndigoFires88 627:User:67.82.245.127 545:Category:Sociology 151:should be fine). 104:Grand Anwar Mosque 794:create an account 734:WP:No disclaimers 719:Curb Safe Charmer 377:Talk:Donald Trump 87: 86: 81:current Help Desk 69: 68: 973: 921: 907: 896: 895: 852: 847: 836:richer than ever 816: 815: 814: 811: 386: 384: 353: 345: 71: 30: 981: 980: 976: 975: 974: 972: 971: 970: 922: 905: 902: 900: 893: 889: 850: 845: 812: 806: 797: 774: 711: 689:COI Noticeboard 619: 595: 521: 438: 399: 382: 380: 348: 343: 220: 137: 100: 95: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 979: 977: 969: 968: 953:Gerrit Viljoen 924: 891: 888: 887:Error detected 885: 884: 883: 882: 881: 839: 829: 826: 773: 770: 769: 768: 767: 766: 710: 707: 706: 705: 704: 703: 669: 648:Matt Dellinger 633: 618: 615: 594: 591: 590: 589: 588: 587: 573: 569: 562: 520: 517: 516: 515: 514: 513: 437: 434: 433: 432: 422:WelpThatWorked 398: 395: 394: 393: 369: 368: 367: 366: 365: 323: 318: 315: 301: 298: 284:WelpThatWorked 219: 216: 215: 214: 213: 212: 136: 133: 132: 131: 99: 96: 94: 91: 89: 85: 84: 76: 75: 67: 66: 60: 44: 37: 36: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 978: 967: 963: 959: 954: 950: 946: 942: 941: 940: 939: 935: 931: 925: 920: 916: 912: 908: 899: 886: 880: 876: 872: 867: 866: 865: 861: 857: 853: 843: 837: 833: 824: 820: 810: 804: 800: 795: 791: 790: 789: 788: 784: 780: 771: 765: 761: 757: 753: 752: 751: 747: 743: 739: 735: 731: 730: 729: 728: 724: 720: 716: 708: 702: 698: 694: 690: 686: 682: 678: 674: 670: 667: 666: 665: 661: 657: 653: 649: 645: 644:User:Mdelling 641: 637: 634: 632: 628: 624: 621: 620: 616: 614: 613: 609: 605: 604:JaggedHamster 600: 592: 586: 582: 578: 574: 570: 567: 564:For example, 563: 560: 559: 558: 554: 550: 546: 542: 538: 537: 536: 535: 531: 527: 518: 512: 508: 504: 500: 496: 492: 491: 490: 486: 482: 478: 474: 473: 472: 471: 467: 463: 457: 454: 450: 446: 443: 435: 431: 427: 423: 418: 417: 416: 415: 411: 407: 404: 396: 392: 389: 385: 378: 374: 370: 364: 360: 359:contributions 356: 351: 346: 339: 338: 337: 333: 329: 328:83.252.116.25 324: 322: 319: 316: 314: 310: 306: 305:83.252.116.25 302: 299: 295: 294: 293: 289: 285: 281: 277: 276: 275: 274: 270: 266: 265:83.252.116.25 260: 257: 253: 250: 249: 243: 241: 235: 234: 230: 227: 223: 217: 211: 207: 203: 202: 198: 197: 192: 188: 187: 186: 182: 178: 174: 173: 172: 171: 167: 163: 158: 155: 152: 150: 144: 140: 134: 130: 127: 124: 120: 119: 118: 117: 113: 109: 108:The Supermind 105: 97: 92: 90: 82: 78: 77: 73: 72: 64: 57: 53: 49: 43: 38: 35: 31: 23: 19: 948: 944: 926: 923: 822: 818: 796:and uncheck 775: 772:Contributing 712: 596: 522: 458: 455: 451: 447: 439: 400: 261: 258: 254: 251: 244: 236: 231: 228: 224: 221: 200: 195: 159: 156: 153: 145: 141: 138: 101: 88: 813:Fundraising 799:Preferences 656:0mtwb9gd5wx 652:Ken Auletta 631:Ken Auletta 406:Wakelamp db 949:Azerbaijan 906:Tenryuu 🐲 851:Tenryuu 🐲 572:elsewhere. 280:not a vote 162:Nyanardsan 123:Shantavira 732:Probably 549:Cullen328 383:Thinker78 135:A request 46:<< 34:Help desk 746:contribs 677:WP:NPOVN 344:weeklyd3 22:Archives 20:‎ | 945:Viljoen 871:Maproom 803:Banners 623:WP:NPOV 539:Hello, 462:Touyats 442:Andorra 93:July 27 83:pages. 63:July 28 42:July 26 685:WP:SPI 681:WP:ANI 636:WP:COI 577:Jamzze 541:Jamzze 526:Jamzze 503:Naraht 481:331dot 388:(talk) 379:page. 196:Joseph 177:331dot 693:Femke 654:.... 638:: by 625:: by 350:block 191:WP:AN 65:: --> 59:: --> 58:: --> 40:< 16:< 962:talk 958:Deor 947:and 934:talk 875:talk 828:use. 783:talk 760:talk 742:talk 723:talk 697:talk 660:talk 650:and 608:talk 581:talk 553:talk 530:talk 507:talk 485:talk 466:talk 426:talk 410:talk 355:talk 332:talk 309:talk 288:talk 269:talk 222:HI. 206:talk 201:2302 181:talk 166:talk 149:Palu 112:talk 52:July 898:FYI 675:or 629:on 56:Aug 48:Jun 964:) 936:) 917:) 915:📝 913:• 911:💬 909:( 901:– 877:) 862:) 860:📝 858:• 856:💬 854:( 838:. 817:. 805:→ 801:→ 785:) 762:) 748:) 744:/ 725:) 699:) 662:) 642:= 610:) 583:) 555:) 532:) 509:) 487:) 468:) 428:) 412:) 361:) 357:| 352:| 334:) 311:) 290:) 271:) 208:) 183:) 168:) 114:) 54:| 50:| 960:( 932:( 873:( 825:. 781:( 758:( 740:( 721:( 695:( 658:( 606:( 579:( 551:( 528:( 505:( 501:. 483:( 464:( 424:( 408:( 347:( 330:( 307:( 286:( 267:( 204:( 179:( 164:( 125:| 110:(

Index

Knowledge:Help desk
Archives
Help desk
July 26
Jun
July
Aug
July 28
current Help Desk
Grand Anwar Mosque
The Supermind
talk
07:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Shantavira

08:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Palu
Nyanardsan
talk
10:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
331dot
talk
11:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
WP:AN
Joseph
2302
talk
11:12, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_military_occupations?wprov=srpw1_0
https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_military_occupations_since_1907

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.