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1412:- says, "Paintings in the Main Corridor". A promotional photo is legitimate when a company or organization distributes a photo of their product or personel to the media in order to sell their product (like a CD, chick-fil-a sandwiches, whatever) or get people to watch their TV show/movie/sporting event. Unless Taiwan is selling Chiang Kai-Shek's body, this is not a promotional photo - this website is just an art gallery at a museum. It would be legitimate to use this image in an article about the painting itself or the museum itself, but you can't just take somebody else's artwork and use it to illustrate the subject of the artwork. I should point out, though, that there is at least a decent chance that it is public domain. See 1495:"Fair use" doesn't mean, "there is a nice picture on the internet that I want to use, therefore it is fair use". You cannot use somebody's painting, photograph, drawing, needlepoint, sculpture, or ANYTHING ELSE, to illustrate the SUBJECT of the piece of art. You can use it to comment on the PIECE OF ART ITSELF or on the person who created it. 1514:
From another point of view: The painting was not created during the Northern Expedition, nor was it created shortly after the Northern Expedition. It was created after Chiang Kai-shek receided to Taiwan, some 30, 40 years or even more later. And it was created for personal or political propaganda. To
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If you propose to delete this pic, you should prove it is not in fair use. We just don't care whether you "suspect" a photo is valuable or not. This pic is from the site of the Memorial Hall of Ching kai-Shek which only purpose is to introduce the life of the man to the general public, and Section
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Keep in mind, I'm not trying to argue in favor of or against the removal of this image - I really have no opinion on the issue as it is outside the purview of IFD - I just answered the question that you asked to the best of my ability. As in most things on Knowledge, if you believe the image should
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as policy. Still, the image doesn't (in my opinion) meet either standard. The fact that it is popular doesn't make it a reliable source. Nor does the fact that it is used in a project where one would like to assume the editors would be subject matter experts. So what now? Should I just unlink
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along with two kids. I cropped them out (which I am allowed to do as it was a GFDL pic) to make the pic just of Crazy Frog because A.) the kids aren't relevant to article at all and B.) Crazy Frog took up a small portion of the photo and thus wasn't visible as much. After I did this, the original
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in that the description page give us no notion of who the copyright holder is and as of right now, I can't get to the source website (don't know if it's just a bad link or down right now or inaccessible outside of Taiwan). Thus, there's no way for us to confirm that this image qualifies for fair
1314:- Knowledge's policy is more restrictive than the US law and this obviously fails criterion 1 - replaceability. If it were a photo ... ok ... but it's a drawing or painting being used to illustrate the subject of the artwork, rather than the work itself. It also fails criterion #10 of 1651:
user (who is one of the kids in the photo) reverted it with no reason why. I reverted it again, asking how they are in any way important. Another person reverted it today, again with no reason for the revertion. It seems to me the original user just wants his picture in the article. —
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use such a painting in the manner which is used in the articles is comparable to indifferently citing a political propaganda created 30 or 40 years later as if it was a contemporary historical discription. This gravely violates academic sincerety and wikipedia NPOV principle.--
125:" and if it's from a userbox, it's a good idea to put a period or the first letter of the TV show or something in there so that it doesn't break their user page ... but anyone can do that. Also, if the image is not being used in any articles, it can just be tagged with 1504:
The servers of wiki locate in USA ; according to the Copyright Act cited above, the usage of the picture in wiki as political poster is well "Fair use". BigDT undersands neither the nature of the source of the pic nor the necessity to use it in wiki
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User:Oden believes the pic is a "painting" ;but it is a "copyrighted publicity photograph" or "a political poster" (whatever it is , it is no longer a painting )from a website whose purpose is to introduce these photos to the general public.
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use. But judging from the URL, that image comes from the government of Taiwan, not the PRC. So it would almost certainly not qualify for fair use to illustrate China. Just grabbing a random work off of the internet doesn't make it fair use.
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In the case of well-maintained articles, I would suggest discussing it on the talk page first to make sure that there is consensus to remove it. If the article is unmaintained or undermaintained and has little activity on the talk page, just
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Commons deletes things that have no potential use in any Wikimedia project ... but the fact that it is currently right now, today, in use is considered evidence that it is useful. It actually is used more than just on en - see
1422:. If the artist died more than 50 years ago, then the painting is public domain and you can use it as a free image. There is insufficient information here to determine whether that is the case, though. 1385:
User:BigDT ignore that Taiwan is nothing but the Republic of CHINA ,and the pic "illustrates the person(s), product, event, or subject in question " ,which is the ancient president of that country.
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The value of this promophoto for the articles using it is questionable because this promophoto is not produced during the events, but far later. So I suspect that it can be used under fairuse--
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I have no problem with the not Jewish part, but the rest of it sounds like the creator of this image doesn't really know what it's supposed to look like and was just guessing. That's one part
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The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easy; but here at least ;it is clear. If you donnot undertand what 'copyright' is ;please just let it go. thanks.--
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FYI, anyone can remove a non-free image from userspace. You should leave an edit summary like, "removing non-free image - fair use images are only permitted in article space per
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is suitable for this pic which is probably not in the public domain. Ths point here is: the usage of the pic in the articles is in FAIR USE,whatever the tag you add to it. ps:
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Those articles all already have pointers to this discussion. Presumably anybody who was interested would have come here already and voiced their opinion. --
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apply to creative commons? I'm assuming not, in which case I guess my issue is not so much against the image, but against its use in wikipedia articles. --
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All three images are tagged as fair-use TV screenshots, but they're clearly created for userboxes. Uploader claims to have left Knowledge.
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1 the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
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107 of US copyright act sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:
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Considering the nature of the source-site and the pic; its usage in Wiki is nothing but a typical case of "fair use".
1331:- per BigDT, fair use images of paintings should be used to illustrate article text which discusses that painting. -- 918: 200: 3185: 3124: 2919: 2241: 1041: 520: 375: 98: 2980: 2546: 1972: 1670: 1629: 624: 250:
OK, I can appreciate that deleting it from commons would not be the right thing to do because commons doesn't have
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OK, that must explain why I couldn't find the name of the user who uploaded it on the image page. Thanks. Do
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The image name contradicts with the description. The video clip cannot be watched on Google at the given link.
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is the offical site of a public institution in the Republic of China, not "an art gallery at a museum".
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3 amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
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Self-made, own hands. I'm not Jewish, so apologies if I did it wrong. I just followed the picture.
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4 the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
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http://www.cksmh.gov.tw/cks/eduweb-utf8/english/index.php?menu_ID=3&page_ID=c3-2-3
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http://www.cksmh.gov.tw/cks/eduweb-utf8/tw/index.php?menu_ID=1&page_ID=private1
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This is an image on Commons. Its speedy deletion has been requested there. —
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Well, this is a painting, not a photograph. The source website you gave -
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it from all the places on en where it is used and let it go at that? --
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We just don't care whether you "suspect" a photo is valuable or not.
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If you donnot undertand what 'copyright' is ;please just let it go.
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Unknown uploader. Image fills dozens upon dozens of album pages.
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and remove it, but be sure to explain why in the edit summary.
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That image is on Commons, not on Knowledge. Please see
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Knowledge:Images and media for deletion/2006 December 23
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Confusing image name, because the name looks like girl
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Chiang_Kai-shek_Memorial_Hall
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