Knowledge:Miscellany for deletion/Music Portals by Moxy

2422:- I was heavily involved in the Bob Dylan Project a few years ago and upon returning recently, I learned Dylan's Portal may be deleted. I find this disappointing and may not be alone: I checked the history and found there were well over 1,000 views this past month, so it's not dormant in that sense. I understand there may be a problem with maintenance, and I'm willing to help in any way I can, short of higher end admin tasks. Also, I'm not sure what the issue is regarding the "scope" of portals tied to biographies, but it should be noted that hundreds of articles are associated with Dylan and that the main article is so extensive it falls short of being a central destination. Therein lies one of the problems: access. The main link to the Portal is buried under See Also, 18,000 words from the top, and the link above the "sister" articles is even more obscure. Better, I think, to provide a link somewhere else: at the top, in the infobox, in the Contents. Just suggesting. 2802:. These portals are largely abandoned, and only degrading the integrity of the main articles (a reader reaching them will get the impression WP is dying; clearly so in some cases). None of them give much beyond the band's main article+naxbox and a couple of random bits of information. If the WP community was 10x its current editing power, and had enthusiasts who wanted to actively manage a band portal page, then these would make sense. But we don't have that, and we seem to be advocating a WP that never seems to have existed (and may never do so; however, if things change, they can always be re-activated). We should not be afraid of the 2841:. Having gotten involved in several MfD's of portals (and read through BHG's main threads), I am only beginning to realize the enormous scale of this problem, and the negative effect of these abandoned portals on the integrity of WP's main articles+navboxes in the eyes of our readers (notwithstanding that a high proportion of these portals are simply an out-of-date cut-and-paste of the main article+navbox; and in some cases the main article is itself out-of-date and/or tagged for issues and in desperate need of scarce editing resources). 1268:

subpages. The guy that built them has said he does not maintain them anymore. Check the talkpages and you will find little evidence anyone else maintains them. Do your own investigation and show us which ones are maintained instead of vaguingly telling everyone we are too dumb to figure things out. Even reading the portals for the live people who are still active you can tell they are out of date forks of mainspace. Also, nothing you typed goes to the core issue that single people/bands do not meet

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votes for each of the three named portals, 4 keep votes for the remainder and 5/6 votes to delete those not named that's not a clear consensus in favour of keeping or deleting any of them. When the strength of the arguments are considered a consensus may emerge regarding some or all of them, but as editors who have strong opinions neither you nor I are in a position to make a fair assessment of that.

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may have been associated with a recent movie), and that the Jackson Family had high portal access, while its most famous member, Michael Jackson, had (expectedly) high article access. The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Bob Dylan do not have high rates of portal views. This confirms two related conclusions. First, portals, in general, have very low rates of access. Second, any

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The following table shows the average daily pageviews of the portals and the lead articles for the period of 1 January 2019 to 28 February 2019, and the ratio, and the percent (the reciprocal of the ratio). The table shows these metrics for the 25 Moxy portals (listed on 12 April and relisted on 24

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which as of today yields 52 per day (1,086 in 20 days). This tool yields similar results for the other two pages you mentioned, so on that count, I'm a bit mystified as to the difference. In any case, I was trying to be helpful and was offering a comment objectively and I thought in good faith...and

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First of all STOP typing stuff up that insinuates that I said something incorrectly. Your participation around portals is part of the problem not part of the solution. These are very old portals although several have been "upgraded" to the automated design. The nomination clearly says they all have

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Bundling for these portals in this manner makes researching each portal individually, on a case-by-case basis, and then providing rationales for each one, extremely labor-intensive and time-consuming. Bundling makes it easy to cast a single !vote for the bunch, but significantly hinders the ability

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As can be seen, no article has fewer than 1900 daily pageviews. No portal has more than 85 daily pageviews, and only two portals have more than 25 daily pageviews. There are surprises, such as that Queen is the most frequently accessed portal and second most frequently accessed article (but this

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this deletion discussion (as suggested above). Like other discussions where many portals are listed in one MfD, it ends up being harder to discern consensus. IMO, it's best if portals are nominated in smaller batches (when the portals have major connecting characteristics) or individually, so that

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to smaller, focused nominations based on the content available for the portals. The portals listed here are hugely different in both scope and history meaning this nomination was always going to be the trainwreck it is. The user who created the portals is entirely irrelevant to nearly every reason

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Ignoring the arguments (which the closer will not be doing, I hope) and just counting noses I see: 4 !votes to keep all, 5 to delete all, 1 to keep Bob Dylan (with no clear opinion expressed about the rest) and 1 to Keep Elvis Presley and The Beatles but delete the rest. If we take that as 5 keep

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article itself. When TTH took, circa May 2018, the editorial decision to nuke the abandoned manual version of this portal then exactly nobody emitted a protest, and this for an obvious reason. Reverting to this abandoned version, with TWO articles, TWO songs and TWO pictures would only be a joke

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after WW2. The more correct analogy is a holdout who left their island shortly after their posting, went to another country, got married and had kids, but ten years later when a ship appeared off the island, they ran back, put on the uniform, and starting waving a samurai sword on the beach.

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But I have just checked each of these 25 portals, and not one of them has a current maintainer. Even in the 30 days that this nomination has been open, no maintainer has come forward for any of them ... even though these portals have all been prominently tagged with a deletion notice, and the

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The data is there time and time and again. It repeatedly shows that readers simply do not want this type of navigation for a single narrow topic. The head article is a vastly better navigational hub in most cases, and clearly does the job well enough for readers not to be looking for portals.

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a portal". In fact, the larger is the ocean, the more ridiculous is presenting two abandoned wooden boards as an elaborate navigation tool. And one month at MfD has proven beyond any doubt that no one has any intent to step forward and start working at these abandoned drafts. Stop luring the

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A further thought that I had on the Santana Portal MfD; how are WP band portals going to compete with Facebook-band portals. While it might have seemed possible a decade ago, there is no way a fan is going to start supporting a WP-band portal when they have a much better platform with a

1314:- 1. These narrow topic portals (biographies, objects, companies, etc.) present exactly the same content as the article. (I have not found a tool that allows me to compare wikilinks (Forward-links), but they are visibly the same). 2. These narrow-topic portals present a relation "(portal 52:. Aside from the blanket keeps, some editors advocated for keeping one or two of the portals; however, I find consensus to delete all 25. The stronger arguments focus on the portals not covering broad subjects, lack of readership (pageviews), and lack of maintenance since 2806:

cycle, where things that don't work get removed, and things that do work get supported. That is why the Encylopedia Britannica is not the world's largest online encyclopedia, and WP is. We should not be afraid/nostalgic/inertial of this – we should embrace it.

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I think it is unfair to make a !vote contingent on a maintainer's comment if only the first editor was notified; accordingly (and only because it seems you are soliciting such a comment) I have put the MfD notice for two of these on two WikiProject talk pages.

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Facebook-band portal (and linked to WP for content). In this regard, not only do WP-band portals not have much of a history, but I cannot see how they can have a future either? We should stick to what we can be distinctive, and avoid competing with Facebook?

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without prejudice regarding individual nominations. Many of these certainly have sufficient scope to have portal in their own right. Other comments concerning the content of these portals are by definition content discussions not deletion discussions.

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Nice chart. We know TTH's and Dreamy Jazz edits are almost always mass passes across hundreds or thousands of portals the meaningful edits are all from Moxy. Moxy suggested we delete these pages and specifically says he is not maintaining them.

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vote above; band portals have no future in WP as facebook (and others) is clearly a better platform for such things (i.e. there is a reason why all these WP band portals are abandoned and only leading to the impression that WP is abandoned).

2501:. Thanks for publishing the request you used. When extending the observation period into , one can see the influence of the present MfD on the pageviews. As a result, you were totally right when not editing this portal that nobody looks at. 3806:

Template:Brandon Jackson". Where "show another" links to a page saying "Purge this page - Clear the cache of this page?" and the template link is a redlink - we shouldn't be luring any readers away from the main article to such a mess.

2234:. Main article for each musician or band is a better place to provide links to other relevant articles. Page view statistics indicate that users do not find these portals useful (or know they exist). Creator supports their deletion. 1088:(i.e., the top 1,000) and have WikiProjects dedicated to them. I focus on the guideline's wording, not a portal's ancestry or maintenance state (unless it is an absolute unsalvageable mess, of course, in which case 1221:

Many of these portals are based upon major musicians and bands that have significant content about them available on Knowledge. Two have already been identified in the opinion of the !vote above as meeting

1648:. And this applies exactly here: if no one wants to maintain any of these portals, then no one else is required to assume the burden of keeping such abandoned remains of the past. And therefore, 1201:. No prejudice toward nominating separately. Also consider only bundling the newer, automated portals, and omitting the curated ones from this nomination, to perhaps be nominated individually. 2313:

It has been well established that community consensus is that portals form part of the encyclopaedia. 15 views a days is significantly more views than some articles get - as just one example

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Thryduulf, the first !vote is a keep for a few named portal, and delete the rest. The "keep" by Allreet applies only to one portal. That leaves a clear consensus to delete the rest. --

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is deleted that would probably remove encyclopedic (and referenced) information from the encyclopedia. That page is also linked from within the text of other articles (e.g.

3852: 2297:, it has been well-established that nobody visits these pages. 15 page views/day is not worth the time it takes to maintain these pages. We have an encyclopedia to build. 2578:) have been converted to automated portals using the deprecated technique of drawing their article list from a single navbox, and should be reverted to a curated format. 1455:- Old portal, 24 subpages, created 2010-01-09 04:11:10 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:The Rolling Stones (was duplicated in the nomination) 1249:

Main portal pages for curated ones often provide no evidence of portal updates, improvements or maintenance, because additions and changes typically occur on subpages.

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the whole set - (I have already !voted delete for some of them, only commented for the others). The pitiful state of these abandoned things can be summarized by the

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had the subliminal meaning: don't say keep, unless you step forward and become one of the maintainer of one of these un-maintained and un-visited portals.

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item of the maintenance template. All are to be deleted if the situation remains. Moreover, this doesn't preclude the argument about 'no single singer'.

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https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Portal:Bob_Dylan

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each portal can be evaluated on their own individual and specific nature. This vote isn't saying that I want to keep or delete these portals.

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doesn't apply, because it is all about content, whereas portals are just summarised content forks; the actual content remains in the articles.

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the rest, including, of course, all of their many, many, many subpages, as not meeting the breadth-of-subject-area requirement of the

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I'm not sure which discussion you're reading, but I don't see a clear consensus for anything either as a group or individually here.

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portals should be about broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers

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So there are both specific-guideline and broad policy reasons for deletion, and their creator is happy for them all to be deleted

1458:- Old portal, 33 subpages, created 2010-01-14 19:49:15 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Michael Jackson 967: 593: 1482:- Old portal, 55 subpages, created 2011-01-04 19:32:35 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Grateful Dead 1470:- Old portal, 13 subpages, created 2010-06-08 03:18:54 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Avril Lavigne 1443:- Old portal, 23 subpages, created 2010-11-25 03:41:45 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Justin Bieber 733: 148: 1479:- Old portal, 17 subpages, created 2010-02-01 23:14:51 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:The Supremes 1473:- Old portal, 18 subpages, created 2010-02-23 22:49:30 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Queen (band) 1464:- Old portal, 13 subpages, created 2010-01-05 20:40:56 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Shania Twain 1327:. The vast majority of the portals listed fail in this one. 4. These portals are very distant from the main page according to 1485:- Old portal, 17 subpages, created 2010-05-10 17:37:25 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Iron Maiden 1467:- Old portal, 15 subpages, created 2010-04-02 18:08:16 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Frank Zappa 2399:

satisfy the criterion of a "broad subject area". If they were all nominated in separate bundles, they'd all get deleted.

1449:- Old portal, 23 subpages, created 2010-01-15 20:58:14 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Pink Floyd 1446:- Old portal, 13 subpages, created 2010-01-05 00:08:28 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Neil Young 1488:- Old portal, 17 subpages, created 2010-01-21 04:06:13 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:The Kinks 1476:- Old portal, 18 subpages, created 2010-01-21 05:22:52 by User:Moxy at some request. No more maintained : Portal:Bob Dylan 1323:

0.1", this shows that readers do not use these portals to seek new information about the topic. 3. Purposes of portals#3,

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Knowledge is a volunteer community and does not require the Wikipedians to give any more time and effort than they wish

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Portal Bob Dylan as un-maintained and un-visited portal. With no prejudice toward the "too narrow topic" argument.

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Thanks for catching that. I was working from two totally different lists. At least I don't make duplicate portals.

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of content. No content (i.e. facts about the world outside wp) should be lost from wp by deletion of portal pages.

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Note to closing Admin - all of these are based on subpages which will also need to be deleted if this closes delete

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For curated portals, this typically needs to ascertained by viewing the Revision histories of a portal's

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below.

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While Moxy may have been the creator, from a spot check, some have been expanded by various other users.

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21 of these 25 are manual portals with subpages, which require ongoing maintenance. The other four (

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and we have deleted nearly every example brought to MFD this year, old style and new style. See

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May), the Adele portal (renominated on 24 May), and 4 portals that were nominated on 18 May.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's

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statement that a subject is a "broad subject area" and will sustain a portal can be shown

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's

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argument is a double edged sword. When an portal is not maintained to the point that no

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if a maintainer appear, this is another fact. But I can also change my opinion from

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Many MFDs have found even top singers and bands are not broad enough topics to meet

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Many of these certainly have sufficient scope to have portal in their own right

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if someone really try hard to compulse me to do my homework. From , we have:

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is provided, this is a fact. When I say that I could change my opinion from

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the same fallacy. "There could have been a portal", is not a proof of "we

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So preserving these portals would be just preserving a set of rotting

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Importantly, users may not realize that some portals listed here are

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relevant WikiProjects have been alerted through the alerts system.

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.

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Knowledge:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_18#Portal:Queen

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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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Already in an earlier nom. Working from different lists

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Did something happen on 8 Feb? Accesses peak then.

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