567:- This portal has been unmaintained since it was created in 2007. The portal has 9 selected articles, 9 selected pictures, and 9 selected quotes, all selected in 2007. In other words, nothing is changing. While Dickens hasn't written any novels in the twenty-first century, he wrote more than 9 novels in the nineteenth century, so that there are obvious possibilities for maintenance.
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The portal isn't the mess that many portals are/were although it does have oddities such as a "Content" tab that just shows a subset of what's on the main portal page. This portal (like most portals) doesn't get a lot of views and doesn't provide much benefit to readers compared with the article
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mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links. Try it by right-clicking on this link to
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was clearly vandalised and not corrected for nearly 10 years (and corrected by an editor who was looking at the portal because it was at MFD). It is better not to lure readers away from articles (that are generally maintained) to a portal that isn't.
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Those new technologies set a high bar for any portal which actually tries to add value for the reader. But this portal fails the basic requirements even of the guidelines written before the new technologies changed the
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539:- Answering the question of Robert and the keep voters, it is not a matter of prejudice against bibliographic portals, but of questioning, what does that portals add to the project? Nothing.
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subpage shows how a portal's alternative presentation of mainspace content has some promise for better engaging readers; 2) the links to wikiprojects encourage collaboration; 3) etc.
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