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content that actively changed in the style of a magazine - the evidence being some portals were set up with content under headings like "October 2007." I'd argue the current function of portals has changed: portals now highlight good and featured content in a particular topic area, along with providing an alternative way of navigating the content within that topic area. I was disappointed when a particular portal was deleted several months ago because it was very well done and highlighted all of the work that had been put in to a relatively narrow section of the encyclopaedia. It hadn't been maintained in years, but it hadn't broken, and nothing really needed to be maintained. I also sympathise with the "kangaroo court" argument - since we aren't arguing within any guidelines here, there's no "statutes" we can fall back on, so instead of simplifying the argument (I think all we really need to be discussing is: does the topic have enough good/featured content (featured GA/FAs, associated WikiProject(s)), and, perhaps, will someone update the content when a new good/featured article is added?) we get drawn into long tangents based on personal interpretations of which nonexistent rules apply.
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spent most of this year devoting their energies to opposing the deletion first of TTH's tsunami of portalspam, and then of almost-unviewed, abandoned junk portals. So there are no consensus-based guidelines for portals in general and the apathy at the WikiProject means that there is no reason toe expect a consensus to be developed there.
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was ten years ago, in 2009, so it's misleading to cite that as current. The review itself is worth examining; like all FP reviews, it's devoid of any structured assessment against a checklist of criteria, and it's mostly about formatting. Every GA review I have been through has been massively more
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But to the rest of SF's post, it seems to be advocating the view that a selection of articles made a decade ago is fine. It's actually very rare for an topic areas's coverage no to have changed substantially over a decade, and I don't see the point of a selection made before all that development.
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can be explained for several reasons. First, portals contain no gold or silver. Second, the images are partially clothed, neither properly nude nor fully dressed, and clothed (including partially clothed) statues cannot be disfigured in the usual manners (for male and female statues). Besides,
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I am just interested in whether there is a group of people who have volunteered to do the work on an ongoing basis. They may indicate that by a making a commitment somewhere, or just by doing the work on a sustained basis … but either way there is no compulsion. We just need some sound reason to
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As to what material changes would help, I could give you my own personal views on that, but they would only be my personal view. There are no consensus guidelines on what portals should contain, and instead of making proposals for RFC now what portals should contain, the portal enthusiasts have
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These Portals are therefore “rationally abandoned” by editors, WProject editors, and readers (and even vandals), in favour of superior WP alternatives. Because of this, these Portals are unlikely to recover from that situation, and “band-aid” solutions based on nostalgia for what this redundant
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Your comparison with AFD is misplaced, because articles are content, but this is not an article. It is a portal, which is a type of navigational devoice. No content will be lost if this portal is deleted. That's why this discussion doesn't operate like AFD, just like CFD and TFD and RFD don't
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The issue with that argument is it's self-executing. If a portal had active maintainers, the portal either wouldn't be nominated for deletion or would be kept at MfD. The nature of "maintenance" has changed considerably from when portals were introduced, when it was foreseen portals would have
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and the link-preview and navbox features of that article mean zero value is added by this portal. The fact it had many errors when not being scrutinized at MfD, errors pointed out by the nominator, suggest that more such errors will crop up down the road. There is no policy or guideline which
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a consensus to keep all portals. Content forks are worthless, since they go out of date, preserve old and inferior versions of article content, add pointlessly to the maintenance burden, and are vandalism magnets; therefore they should not be saved. I support replacement of links rather than
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may be a broad topic, but it's clear that no one wants to maintain a portal on it. It's clear that the tide has turned against the necessity for portals in Knowledge (XXG) unless someone is willing to keep them active and functional, and there is no evidence that this is being done.
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a consensus to keep all portals. Content forks are worthless, since they go out of date, preserve old and inferior versions of article content, add pointlessly to the maintenance burden, and are vandalism magnets; therefore they should not be saved. I suggest replacement of links to
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a. For content, both Main Articles give a far better, larger/comprehensive (both Main Articles are extensive), structured read (with mouseovers), that are actively monitored and heavily edited (the NBA Main Article has had to be protected, but vandals completely ignore the NBA
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I fixed the errors indentified in the NBA portal nomination. I am willing to help enhance things, but I do not see clear guidelines on what remains deficient. While the input from all has been sincere, honestly, the discussion has had the feel of a kangaroo court.
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Re: NOTCOMPULSORY, you and others have stated the need for maintainers, which seemed (to me) like sign ups were needed here now to avoid deletion. I'm not a portal deletion discussion regular, so perhaps that's par for the course.
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No policy- or guideline-based arguments to delete. It also doesn't seem common sense/IAR to delete to this non-portal regular. An essay which organizes the deletion thoughts would perhaps be a helpful reference to
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you have taken my words out of context. Pages don't usually get nominated for deletion unless there is a perceived problem, and they don't get deleted unless there is consensus to deleted. That is true of all
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Originated 2008 by sporadic editor who last edited April 2019. Articles content-forked between 2009 and 2011. No material updates since 2011; some edits through 2017, and a few cosmetic edits Sep 2019.
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that has a maintainer and a maintenance plan and does not use content-forked subpages (which rot). Neither has a large number of articles. Neither is being maintained or is about to be maintained.
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It have seen this sort of response a few times before, and I am always surprised by it. I don't see how some editors translate "there needs to be regular maintainers" into "you must do the work". --
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per nominator, per the delete votes above, and per the fact that there is no good reason to keep such a portal as this. Low page views (26 per day in the last 3 months, compared to 4,483 for
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You then tried to apply general comment about the operation of XFDs to the applicability of one particular deletion rationale. That's a different issues, and a misapplication of my words.
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Errors have been addressed. "Four never-updated entries" is a red herring, unless there is something out-of-date. This portal is on my watchlist, and I've removed vandalism in the past,
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My intent (as a portal novice) was to put the various perspectives into proper context, not to manipulate. Your latest comments regarding content and navigation were helpful. Alas,
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per nominator and per the fact that there is no good reason to keep such a portal as this. Relatively low page views (56 per day in the last 3 months, compared with 4,043 for
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An article should be assessed based on whether it has a realistic potential for expansion, not how frequently it has been edited to date. Remember that there is no deadline.
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technology was once meant to be, will be wasted effort as these Portals will need to be deleted one way or another to avoid obvious longer-term content forking issues.
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I am glad that SF agrees that a portal needs an associated WikiProject, because many of the portals coming to MFD have no WikiProject which takes any interest in them.
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As to policies and guidelines, that's what I am used to as well. But sadly the broad consensus-building processes required to create them have never been a forte of
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c. Finally, for a directory of topic FA/GA articles, the WikiProject Basketball and WikiProject National Basketball Association have a full non-POV’ed directories.
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b. For navigation, the detailed Navboxes on the two Main Articles are also far better, and by being transcluded to many articles, are also kept more up to date.
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if promised or done at the last minute just to stave off deletion. Simple assertions that the topic is broad enough are entirely subjective; rather, that it is
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Neglected portal. Page was kept at MfD in 2011 where one very myopic editor claimed "maintenance is never required, but optional like articles." Eleven
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thorough that that supposed "Featured" status review. So I wouldn't have given much weight to that FP review even when it happened ten years ago. --
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and the condition it is in mean zero value is added by such a portal. There is no policy or guideline which suggests this portal should exist. Portals
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both, per nominator and per Crossroads. Nobody wats to maintain ether portals, and see no sign of interest from the respective WikiProjects. -
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remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case
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becomes unconditional. (BLPs and other articles that easily go out of date need to use automation or require a lot of attention otherwise). —
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It's like saying that museum or art gallery can set up its displays the day it opens its door and keep the same displays for ever.
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This statement on the NBA portal (perhaps on the Basketball one too) is inaccurate. The portal is composed of multiple subpages.
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per lack of maintenance and low page views. No point in keeping portals in which neither readers nor editors are interested in.
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the narrow scope (a single sport in one country) can't be fixed by editing. Nor can the near-total lack of interest from the
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broad enough is demonstrated by the lack of pageviews and maintenance. The community's consensus not to delete all portals is
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broad enough is demonstrated by the lack of pageviews and maintenance. The community's consensus not to delete all portals is
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As I stated earlier, I'm not a portal deletion discussion regular. Right or wrong, however, this is not operating like AfDs.—
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list minutiae about the team's history, but nothing about winning five division titles and a championship over six years.
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left the Miami Heat in 2013 to coach that same team. He then left the Heat this year to coach the Michigan Wolverines.
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article is ostensibly GA class, but fails to explain that the rivalry has been dead for six years. So does the entry.
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This discussion began on 15 Oct, but Portal:National Basketball Association was not bundled here until 17 October,
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believe that the portal will be maintained on an ongoing basis, and that it won't be dependent on one individual.
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If a portal had active maintainers, the portal either wouldn't be nominated for deletion or would be kept at MfD
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Basketball is a topic which is broad enough to sustain a portal, and the problems can be easily remedied.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below.
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Fair enough, there's plenty of content here, valid sub-portal from Basketball, willing to change to
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Keep Portal:Basketball also (I already !voted keep on Portal:NBA before that mid-process bundling)
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bundling these nominations into one nomination, since they are being discussed at the same time.
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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/Portal:National Basketball Association (2nd nomination)
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process was discontinued in March 2017, a year after its last review, so all we have now is
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a candidate for AfD.
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Originator inactive since 2009. Last maintenance (as of 16Oct19) appears to be 2014.
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the portal already manages to give a biased view of the topic. Actively harmful.
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providing an alternative way of navigating the content within that topic area
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unlike other truly neglected portals that get deleted. This portal gets it's
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his already out-of-date entry was apparently carelessly copy-pasted from
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I've copyedited to address the errors mentioned in the nomination.—
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Per nom and my expanded reasons in the bundled nomination below.
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XFD discussion, and it's a description of a system working well.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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is merged into it? Otherwise both portals should be deleted.
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I'm sorry that you describe this MFD as a kangaroo court.
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seemed to sum up the general portal situation best:
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you close this discussion as delete, please can you
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Portal:Basketball
Portal:Basketball
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Miscellany for deletion/Portal:National Basketball Association
Miscellany for deletion/Portal:National Basketball Association (2nd nomination)
Portal:National Basketball Association
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Portal:NBA
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selected bios
Toronto Raptors
Duke–Michigan men's basketball rivalry
Juwan Howard
Yao Ming

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