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469:. Topic too narrow for a Portal. However, Portal is also now technologically redundant to other superior WP options/tools. For content, the Main Article is a far better (GA rated), larger, structured read (with mouseovers), that is actively monitored and edited. For navigation, the Navboxes on the Main Article are also far better (excellent), and by being transcluded are also kept more up to date. Finally, for a directory of FA/GA articles, the WikiProject Ainme and Manga has a non-POV’ed directory (the portal doesn’t even give this). This portal is therefore “rationally abandoned” by editors and readers in favour of better alternatives, and unlikely to recover from that situation. 416:
to have failed; (3) portal maintenance, (a) with at least two maintainers to provide backup, with a maintenance plan indicating how the portal will be maintained (b) the absence of any errors indicating lack of maintenance (including failure to list dates of death in biographies). Some indication of how any selected articles were selected (e.g., Featured Article or Good Article status, selection by categories, etc.) is also desirable. Any portal that does not pass these common-sense tests is not useful as a navigation tool, for showcasing, or otherwise.
399:. The portal guidelines were an effort to codify common sense about portals, and we should still use common sense. It is still a matter of common sense that portals should be about broad subject areas that will attract large numbers of viewers and will attract portal maintainers. (There never was an actual guideline referring to broad subject areas, and the abstract argument that a topic is a broad subject area is both a 342:. As was usually the case with portals MFDs in that era, there was agreement that the portal was unmaintained, but consensus not to delete. Nine years later, it is still unmaintained, and community consensus has changed against retaining long-abandoned portals in the unevidenced hope that someday someone might star maintaining it again. (The essay 508:, like an article is, since they are for navigation instead. It is therefore improper to use rationales meant for keeping articles to argue that this failed navigation device should be kept. There is no reason to think that hoped-for improvements and long-term maintenance will ever materialize anyway, 415:
claim that a topic is broad) (the number of articles in appropriate categories is an indication of potential breadth of coverage, but actual breadth of coverage should be required); (2) a large number of viewers, preferably at least 100 a day, but any portal with fewer than 25 a day can be considered
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a consensus to keep all portals; instead they are to be evaluated individually, as is being done here. Content forks are worthless, since they go out of date, preserve old and inferior versions of article content, add pointlessly to the maintenance burden, and are vandalism magnets; therefore they
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per nominator, per the delete votes above, and per the fact that there is no good reason to keep such a portal as this. Low page views and the poor condition it is in mean zero value is added by such a portal. There is no policy or guideline which suggests this portal should exist. Portals
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were never approved by a consensus of the Knowledge (XXG) community, and we have never had real portal guidelines. We should therefore use common sense, which is discussed in Knowledge (XXG) in the essay section
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remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s), without creating duplicate entries. In this case I think the best target is
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per nominator. This portal has a narrow topic (a single anime.magna franchise), low page views, and has been long abandoned apart from the usual formatting tweaks.
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if promised or done at the last minute just to stave off deletion. Simple assertions that the topic is broad enough are entirely subjective; rather, that it is
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and meaningless.) Common sense imposes at least a three-part test for portals to satisfy common sense: (1) a broad subject area, demonstrated
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broad enough is demonstrated by the lack of pageviews and maintenance. The community's consensus not to delete all portals is
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should not be saved. I support replacement of links rather than redirection, to avoid surprising our readers.
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Fifteen selected articles, none of which were extensively updated since 2007 outside of routine maintenance.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below.
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that even internationally popular anime franchises aren't broad enough to merit their own portals.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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I looked to see if there was a WikiProject to support it, and found that there is a
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Not many articles, low readership, no maintenance for years.
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searched the project's talk archive for "Portal:Dragon Ball"
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Average daily pageviews in the first half of 2019 are
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Template:WikiProject status#Usage:_Inactive_projects
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you close this discussion as delete, please can you
409:by a breadth of selected articles (not only by an 294:Pop culture portals are a privilege, not a right. 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 554:). No further edits should be made to this page. 340:WP:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Dragon Ball 8: 318:WP:WikiProject Anime and manga/Dragon Ball 88:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Dragon Ball 201:I think the backlinks would work best at 167:I think it's already been established in 85: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion 80: 7: 48:The result of the discussion was: 179:Time to just delete this already. 24: 150:for the parent article (.428%). 486:this worthless portal forever. 84:All prior XfDs for this page: 1: 535:04:36, 29 October 2019 (UTC) 496:21:28, 24 October 2019 (UTC) 479:16:00, 24 October 2019 (UTC) 462:13:34, 24 October 2019 (UTC) 429:22:39, 23 October 2019 (UTC) 366:23:35, 22 October 2019 (UTC) 320:. However, I just tagged it 304:23:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC) 287:20:16, 22 October 2019 (UTC) 239:20:14, 22 October 2019 (UTC) 215:20:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC) 189:20:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC) 70:05:10, 30 October 2019 (UTC) 574: 334:, and got only one hit: a 83: 544:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 169:the deletion discussion 153:Created in mid-2007 by 440:Portal:Anime and manga 261:Portal:Anime and manga 203:Portal:Anime and manga 146:for the portal versus 248:Note to closing admin 381:User:BrownHairedGirl 395:and in the article 263:, as suggested by @ 138:Neglected portal. 105:Portal:Dragon Ball 76:Portal:Dragon Ball 444:Portal:Evangelion 388:Portal Guidelines 375:as per nominator 364: 346:applies here). -- 296:Mark Schierbecker 285: 237: 100: 99: 68: 565: 393:Use Common Sense 355: 353: 351: 323:as inactive per 276: 274: 272: 228: 226: 224: 200: 134: 133: 81: 56: 34: 573: 572: 568: 567: 566: 564: 563: 562: 558: 552:deletion review 506:are not content 442:as was done to 421:Robert McClenon 349: 348: 336:2010 MFD notice 270: 269: 222: 221: 197:BrownHairedGirl 194: 107: 103: 79: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 571: 569: 560: 557: 556: 538: 537: 498: 481: 471:Britishfinance 464: 454:Knowledgekid87 433: 432: 431: 417: 369: 368: 328: 313: 312: 306: 289: 244: 243: 242: 241: 177: 176: 173:Portal:Pokémon 165: 162: 151: 136: 135: 98: 97: 96: 95: 90: 78: 73: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 570: 561: 555: 553: 549: 545: 540: 539: 536: 532: 528: 527: 526: 519: 515: 511: 507: 502: 499: 497: 493: 489: 485: 482: 480: 476: 472: 468: 465: 463: 459: 455: 451: 448: 445: 441: 437: 434: 430: 426: 422: 418: 414: 413: 408: 407: 402: 398: 394: 389: 386:The intended 385: 384: 382: 378: 374: 371: 370: 367: 362: 358: 354: 345: 341: 337: 333: 329: 326: 322: 319: 315: 314: 310: 307: 305: 301: 297: 293: 290: 288: 283: 279: 275: 266: 262: 257: 253: 249: 246: 245: 240: 235: 231: 227: 218: 217: 216: 212: 208: 204: 198: 193: 192: 191: 190: 186: 182: 174: 170: 166: 163: 160: 156: 152: 149: 145: 141: 140: 139: 131: 127: 123: 119: 115: 111: 106: 102: 101: 94: 91: 89: 86: 82: 77: 74: 72: 71: 66: 63: 60: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 559: 543: 541: 525:-Crossroads- 524: 523: 517: 513: 509: 505: 500: 483: 466: 435: 410: 406:a posteriori 404: 397:common sense 372: 308: 291: 255: 251: 247: 178: 137: 61: 49: 47: 31: 28: 377:User:ToThAc 219:I agree. -- 488:Catfurball 352:HairedGirl 273:HairedGirl 225:HairedGirl 155:Sesshomaru 548:talk page 37:talk page 550:or in a 436:Redirect 412:a priori 401:handwave 361:contribs 344:WP:GODOT 282:contribs 234:contribs 39:or in a 118:history 501:Delete 484:Delete 467:Delete 373:Delete 357:(talk) 338:about 309:Delete 292:Delete 278:(talk) 265:ToThAc 230:(talk) 207:ToThAc 181:ToThAc 54:JJMC89 50:delete 350:Brown 271:Brown 223:Brown 126:watch 122:links 16:< 531:talk 510:even 492:talk 475:talk 458:talk 425:talk 379:and 300:talk 267:. -- 211:talk 185:talk 171:for 159:UzEE 148:3735 130:logs 114:talk 110:edit 52:. — 518:not 514:not 438:to 359:• ( 280:• ( 256:not 232:• ( 533:) 494:) 477:) 460:) 449:, 427:) 330:I 302:) 252:if 213:) 205:. 187:) 144:16 128:| 124:| 120:| 116:| 112:| 529:( 490:( 473:( 456:( 446:( 423:( 363:) 298:( 284:) 236:) 209:( 199:: 195:@ 183:( 132:) 108:( 67:) 65:C 62:· 59:T 57:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion
talk page
deletion review
JJMC89
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05:10, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Dragon Ball
Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Dragon Ball
Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Dragon Ball (2nd nomination)
Portal:Dragon Ball
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
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3735
Sesshomaru
UzEE
the deletion discussion
Portal:Pokémon
ToThAc
talk
20:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
BrownHairedGirl
Portal:Anime and manga
ToThAc
talk

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