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mistake. The userbox is indeed saying that even hate groups like the KKK have the right to speech. The nominator is exercising the right of free speech by nominating the userbox, and Knowledge (XXG) should exercise the freedom of its servers (because freedom of the press applies to those who own a
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this isnโ€™t a pro-KKK box, itโ€™s using the KKK as a deliberately extreme example to make a point. Note that it at least shows the Klansman peacefully holding a sign and not, like, lynching people. Heโ€™s not even expressing hate speech if you look at the signโ€” heโ€™s just endorsing
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Good luck, I think it will be a mess if not done properly. You have to somehow explain your points while keeping the explanation short and concise for it to have a maximum effect. The last thing you need is counterproposals to grind the chat to a standstill (dead chat). -
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defended free speech regardless of the opinions being espoused. For example, the reactionary, anti-Catholic, anti-black Ku Klux Klan (KKK) was a frequent target of ACLU efforts, but the ACLU defended the KKK's right to hold meetings in
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I don't have any issue with the concept of freedom of speech, on the contrary. The question here is whether that concept should be defended by KKK members as poster boys, and that is what this userbox shows.
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if you want to go after political/potentially divisive userboxes, you'll have plenty of opportunity to when I set up an RfC for just that purpose. --
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Its a bit too controversial, and undesirable, to defend the right to free speech with a userbox like this, containing a 1964 picture of
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Please don't, while good intended there is no agreed upon definition of what is potentially divisive or not. -
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right now about the sphere in which this discussion revolves, so I'm not going to weigh in beyond that quote.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below.
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I actually worked on a rough observed consensus in my sandbox. Iโ€™ll post it if there is an RfC
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
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That's the subject of an essay I'm working on right now, actually, called "
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Yeah, I'm not going live with the thing until I get plenty more feedback.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Clearly not uncivil, inflammatory, or substantially divisive (
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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion
talk page
deletion review
non-admin closure
* Pppery *
it has begun...
21:07, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Template:User pro free speech
Template:User pro free speech
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
KKK
Sundostund
talk
21:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
WP:UBCR
MarshallKe
talk
21:48, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Sundostund
talk
22:14, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
good-faith
Robert McClenon
talk
03:31, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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