659:; the user page is pretty harmless; many users make plain where they're coming from and this does so clearly and inoffensively (and I'm an atheist, so I don't mean I agree with it). Plus it helps make clear his POV when he expresses it in his edits, so he's easier to deal with. The picture is a nice bit of art. I have something like that from a small town in New Mexico, too.
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Dicklyon and Snalwibma. A few quotes and an amusing picture are hardly a blog or a soapbox. Lots of people have the same. I rolled my eyes, but it also helps me put his edits in context. If he had a paragraph decrying brain-dead baby-killing liberals, it would be different. We should not
775:, per dab - with the exception of the spelling (not a blockable offense - try DR for spelling errors.) I suppose I'll have to delete my userpage because I have a cute quote regarding how nice dogs are, which is not only soapboxing for dogs, but self-promotion as well. Dang, I ought to be banned.
451:, we should avoid deleting the userpages of active contributors, as it's likely to drive them away from the encyclopedia; editors are our most valuable resource. Deleting this page is overkill; however, I think the user should re-design the page, to avoid antagonising other users.
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May I ask how quoting two bible verses constituents a soapbox? I also noticed that you haven't attempted to discuss the matter with the user himself/herself either. While the page does state his or her religious believes, I don't see it crossing the line into advocacy.
671:- it's actually useful to be able to see this guy's POV at a glance, if you come across one of his edits and wonder where he gets his ideas from. He's right - why have user pages at all, if you're not allowed to put an emblem of your choice on yours?
201:. As for placing a notice on the page, I felt the deletion notice, on the page in question, was sufficient. As for discussing, the user tends to be very hard to deal with. Just looks at the archive, edits, and discussions he is involved in. --
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I'm not that sure about this one. This editor does contribute somewhat to the encyclopedia, so a "not a soapbox" argument is not as strong as for someone whose entire purpose here is to whine about something.
530:(emphasis mine) There's a difference between simply stating your beliefs (which,in the interest of full disclosure, I am all for on WP) and out and out advocacy. Yes, the picture is from the
742:, harmless as it is. once he begins threatening godless liberals with hellfire in giant letters, revisit. (but I do suggest we make the spelling "existance" a blockable offence)--
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684:, which made me think he was a Raelist. The problem is with the user, the userpage is just symptomatic of that. Problems with user conduct should be addressed at
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I'm hardly using my userpage as a blog. I don't make frequent edits and there is very little text. On that note, why does
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I wasn't the one who uploaded the picture and I don't see how it could be interpreted as soapboxing. It's from an article on the 1973 energy crisis. --
393:. If you're going to use such a fanatical interpretation, then your own user page (which has various nationalist overtones) should go as well. --
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I much prefer to understand the POV of editors, and the user page is an appropriate way to do that. There's nothing offensive or divisive here.
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