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clearly states that you can't close a discussion if you've offered an opinion on it. The relist should be cancelled or at the very least the relisting comment struck so people don't get the impression it was written by an
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was a speedy deletion criterion, then we could use it to our advantage with this userbox. It really is shameful that such a controversial userbox even exists. And to the userbox creator: Don't try using excuses like
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Maybe the wording can be tweaked to remove the "no different than" bit. I don't think this template was created in bad faith as academics have weighed in on the matter. -
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I reverted the pointless, and improper, relist. Relists without a good meaningful relist comment, by someone qualified to close, should not be done.
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From the perspective of those who use this userbox, this wouldn't be a provocative hyperbole, they believe the comparison of the two is legitimate.
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having compared the two. This is someone's relatively common point of view, and it's best to declare it.
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