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225:: "Knowledge (XXG) is not a free wiki host for you to use for your own purposes. It's an encyclopedia. Our primary goal here is to write an encyclopedia, not to provide free web hosting to people. Even if your article isn't taking up much space, you are still misusing Knowledge (XXG) and preventing it from becoming a usable encyclopedia." The overriding purpose of this website is to build an encyclopedia, and things that subtract, slow down, and take away from that purpose do not have a place here. Editors contributing to this story could be contributing manhours towards articles and useful environments. — 585:(red? a red link? I don't know what to do about that!) of editing. Please show that the wikipedia community is indeed generally tolerant. To give the eminently serious and productive editor WBardwin a slap for letting his hair down seems to me just like thoughtless mistreatment of a good user. Is this something to make him leave over? :-( (PS. There's no need to nominate "European toilet paper holder" for deletion, btw; it was deleted at my request long ago, and I've only temporarily recreated it as an example--I'll delete it again in a day or two.) 556:"The Knowledge (XXG) community is generally tolerant and offers fairly wide latitude in applying these guidelines to regular participants. Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic" may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed Wikipedians with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the encyclopedia." 433:-- although the project never got off the ground, note that USER PAGES are being targeted for deletion. Part of the agreement with Knowledge (XXG) users is to allow them to create user pages for their own and common use. As such they are private property and I do not want my user page deleted. If the concensus is that the 766:
all pages in this nomination. I believe the Department of Fun was called "wretched" earlier in the page. Well, I say that a Knowledge (XXG) where all editors must constantly work as information-adding robots would be far more wretched than any attempt to alleviate the monotony. In addition, if you
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argued once that editing "European toilet paper holder" had relieved his wikistress to the point where he changed his mind about leaving, and cheerfully hung around for an additional number of months, producing more Featured articles. Altogether, while that nonsense was active, the habitual editors
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There seems to be some misunderstanding here regarding user space vs. project space. These user pages exist as part of the Knowledge (XXG) eponymous department of fun page for this MfD. The fact that some of the pages exist in user space is really not the issue. The issue is whether to have a
548:. WBardwin was mistaken about userpage policy, and the page in his space certainly isn't private property. But please don't take that as a reason to delete his harmless userpage, as one thing doesn't have to do with another. I ask people to consider this part of the userpage policy: 158: 371:
a place for social networking, and this distracts horribly from the encyclopaedia. I am becoming ever more convinced that the wretched Department of Fun is causing far more harm than good. Slay all related subpages as well. Burn with fire, lots and lots of fire.
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lets us use original research in Knowledge (XXG)-space? Your server space argument is a misconception, seeing that it's still on the server even if it's deleted. I am neutral on this, but could you use arguments that actually apply to the situation?
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feel that it's distracting to you, don't go there or pay attention to it. There's no need for juvenile attempts to destroy other people's work because you stumbled across it and do not like it; simply never go there again if it bothers you.
581:) produced a remarkable number of FAs. I appreciate that the userpages in question here are inactive, but presumably their purpose was originally similar: fun, relaxation, a creative break in the serious business of wiki-editing, a 201:. If it's just going to be inactive, it's not helpful. But I don't see how this hurt anything to begin with. Transwiki might be the correct option if it were still active, but as is, maybe we could tag it as historical? -- 658:
that whether the chapters of the story are in user space or project space. The issue is, as I state above, whether to have a subproject here on book writing. The chapters are part of that project. —
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I think everybody who's been here for a while could give their own examples of userpages that are purely for fun (="building the community"). I've had some egregious examples in my own space, notably
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Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Knowledge (XXG). Knowledge (XXG) is not a general hosting service, so your user page is not a personal homepage.
221:: "Knowledge (XXG) is not a place to publish your own thoughts and analyses or to publish new information not heretofore published," nor "original inventions," nor "ersonal essays or logs." 325:, it should be deleted outright. Look, I realize that Wikipedians are normal people; they need entertainment just like everybody else, and Knowledge (XXG)'s a great place for it, 568:, which those of you who've been here long enough may remember seeing on the front page on April 1, 2005. Nobody ever offered to delete that one, in fact it was nominated on 175: 75:. It was/is an attempt to write a story on Knowledge (XXG). It is inactive. It is also questionable whether it should be here even if active--Knowledge (XXG) is 261:
does not strictly apply to Knowledge (XXG) space. Our policies, for example, are all based on original research of Knowledge (XXG)'s needs and behaviours. --
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the use pages, per several below. (I'd still strongly encourage the editors of the user pages to put them up for speedy deletion at creator request). —
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Then why not nominate the Knowledge (XXG) namespace article and deal with the user pages seperately instead of in one submission. --
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In excessive cases, your user subpage may be deleted, following a listing on Miscellany for deletion, subject to deletion policy.
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at one point. ;-) I assert that playful nonsense of such a type in the userspace is actually useful for the encyclopedia.
492:, sorry, Knowledge (XXG) is not a web host and even user pages should have some general connection with the encyclopedia. — 65: 786: 36: 131: 683: 457:
You have some misconceptions regarding user pages. For example, the User page guideline you reference states in
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Once upon a time there was a rather silly and unhelpful project page... A happy ending for this story would be
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per Whedonette. Nonsense and offensive content. Of no benefit to the encyclopedia, and is totally unrelated.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a
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nomination without discussion can also be seen as an attempt to make a point rather than build consensus
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Note: This is actually the second nomination of this page. The first one was a year and a half ago at
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below.
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Project be deleted, user pages should be retained. See established Knowledge (XXG) guideline --
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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/User:AtionSong/World's Longest Poem (second nomination)
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proposing something like this for deletion without commenting on any talk page is not civil
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doesn't apply. Also an inactive project is simply wasting Knowledge (XXG) server space.
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the page in project namespace (that's not what the project namespace is for)
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per Moreschi, who seems to be turning into my mouthpiece in these matters...
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No, that's not what I mean. If the article benefitted the 'cyclopedia, then
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this page should be deleted. It's not benefitting the encyclopedia so
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Also included in this nomination are the following two user subpages:
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user pages (harmless fun in semi-private space is perfectly OK).
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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on a game that required users to make improvements to articles.
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the user subpages. And everyone lived happily ever after. . . .
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subproject here on book writing, regardless of namespace. —
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pages in user space still do belong to the community
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we should be accommodating of other people's quirks
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion
deletion review
Radiant
09:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Once upon a time...
Knowledge (XXG):Department of Fun
WP:NOT
User:Gkhan/Chapter 1
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
User:WBardwin/Chapter
edit
talk
history
links
watch
logs
Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/User:AtionSong/World's Longest Poem (second nomination)
Doug Bell
02:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Votes for deletion/Once upon a time...
tjstrf
talk
02:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
tjstrf
talk

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