1008:, therefore it should not be included". On Knowledge (XXG), inclusion of content is determined by a series of policies and guidelines set by consensus, not by people saying "I think this belongs" or "I do not think this belongs". All of that is personal opinion, and the only comment less helpful than personal opinion is a simple vote. It is impossible to please everyone. But it is possible to comply with guidelines, and this will decide what is included and what not. Knowledge (XXG) editors are a pretty diverse group of individuals, and potentially any subject or topic may be liked or disliked by some editor somewhere. However, personal preference is not a valid reason to keep or delete an article or other content.
4147:, in addition to their primary function, also summarize positions, opinions and arguments. Frequently, this is done with reference to policies and guidelines, so to glibly brand them as "only an essay" or "only a proposal" may be misleading. It also essentially suggests that the opinion of the person citing the page (as well as those of the people who originally wrote the page) is invalid when it may not be. There are many reasons why some arguments presented in discussions are invalid, based around the substance of the argument or the logic employed in reaching it. "The page you linked to is an essay or proposal" is not one of them.
2982:. An article could have many paragraphs or even pages of information. If any of that information is not and cannot be properly sourced, it does not belong. On the other hand, even a small amount of information can be eligible for inclusion, provided that the inclusion guidelines are met. Even if the article on a subject is very short, it may just be waiting for expansion. Likewise, information being too detailed may be a good argument for moving it to a more specialized article, but is not in itself a reason to remove it entirely.
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linked to from the
English language article. It may also be the information is important in the English-speaking world, but of little relevance to speakers of other languages, or vice versa. En.Knowledge (XXG) also sees more editorial activity on most topics than other-language Wikipedias do. Finally, all of the various Wikipedias set most of their policies and guidelines independently, aside from legal and WMF-mission-related requirements mandated by
2605:. If material is not suitable for Knowledge (XXG) according to the current standards, it will be deleted or corrected regardless of how old it is. Any text on any page is subject to change at any time, no matter how long it has been that way. If there is a good reason to remove long-standing text, the length of time it has been there should not be an obstacle.
2628:, a good-faith challenge by an editor nullifies that default assumption. "It's been here a long time" is not the same as "it's had actual consensus for a long time". Material may remain unchallenged due to a lack of relevance, significance or applicability, or because the problems with it were subtle or simply went undiscovered until recently.
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Knowledge (XXG), anyone can create or contribute to articles. This means that you cannot make a convincing argument based solely on whether similar content exists on another page. While consistency with other pages is not a good argument by itself, comparisons between pages are often made in order
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Knowledge (XXG) is an encyclopedia, so it should include useful encyclopedic content. But many useful things do not belong in an encyclopedia and are excluded. Just saying something is useful or useless without providing explanation and context is not helpful or persuasive in the discussion. You need
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A content discussion is about the content in question itself. Though the suitability of related content may be mentioned during the discussion, and some discussions are bundled together, the debate is not about the author or any other editors of the article. Content is to be judged on its own merits
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Wikipedias don't have something that en.Knowledge (XXG) does is not a reason that the information should be removed. It may be the case that nobody has yet added this to the other language's Knowledge (XXG) or that it just hasn't been
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editors from improving it in the future. Conversely it's not enough to promise to make the content better; editors should explain how to do it. If the editor fails to follow through on the promise, other editors who arrive later can step in and keep improving it. This way, the fate of the content is
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significant information, even if it isn't significant within the
English-speaking population or within more populous or Internet-connected nations. Likewise, arguments that state that because information is lesser known or even completely unknown outside a given locality do not mean the information
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Knowledge (XXG); it may be that the topic is obscure or difficult to write about. Content should be
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are just as legitimate as those that are accessible to everyone online. If content is sourced to offline sources, even exclusively offline sources, we give the creator (and other contributors) the benefit of the doubt in accepting their accuracy. Since
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be poorly written, poorly formatted, lack sufficient sources, or not be a comprehensive overview of the subject, can be improved and rewritten to fix its current flaws. That such content is lacking in certain areas is a relatively minor problem, and it can still be of benefit to
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be useful as a negative test of popular culture topics which one would expect to see sourced via the
Internet. A search on an alleged "Internet meme" that returns only one or two distinct sources is a reasonable indication that the topic is not as important as has been claimed. As well, numerous
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On the other hand, blogs can be written by professional journalists and subject to editorial control, and personal sites can belong to established experts in the subject. There are also pages bearing the URLs of blogs that have mirrored news articles that do constitute reliable sources. For sites
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have been written about them that are relevant to the scope of the article, they cannot be included. If your favourite song/computer game/webcomic/whatever is as great as you believe, someone will likely write about it eventually, so please just be patient. On the other hand, claims that content
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and losers. If a user is disrupting the encyclopedia by continually adding information that gets deleted or removing good content from articles, an investigation may be called for into their behavior; this is an independent issue and its result one way or the other should not influence content
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and personal pages that can be created or edited by anyone with little or no restriction are generally not seen as reliable sources of information. While such sites may be written in good faith and may be seen by some as accurate and/or neutral, there is little or no control or proof of these
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to illustrate a more substantial argument; as such, comparative statements should not be dismissed out of hand unless they lack any deeper reasoning. While relying on comparisons to other articles is generally unconvincing, articles that have been through some form of quality review—such as
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to insist on its removal pending the citations, especially if the editor who added it has requested help with the sourcing (e.g. because the source is behind a journal site's paywall and they no longer have access to it).
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in particular is focused on usefulness to the reader. An argument based on usefulness can be valid if put in context. For example, "This list brings together related topics in X and is useful for navigating that subject."
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the content is or is not valuable; this way other editors can judge its value in a certain context, and whether it meets Knowledge (XXG)'s policies. Without that explanation, it does not make a valid argument.
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exist, not on subjective judgments of why there aren't more or newer sources. Focusing on the objective evidence helps the discussion reach a logical conclusion; injecting your personal supposition does not.
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to do it. Rather than using a page's "guideline" designation as an excuse to make an exception, suggest reasons why an exception should be made.
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including user-generated content, assess whether the content is self-published or
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This article is about myself, and I don't want the world to know that about me –
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Who outside of (name locality) has ever even heard of this person/place/thing? –
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There are 345,400 Google hits for this term, so it is clearly of interest. –
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weight and relevance should also be taken into account in making decisions.
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I placed this template on top of the page so my work wouldn't get deleted –
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Guidelines do indeed have exceptions; however, it is unhelpful to suggest "
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This is an album by a famous artist, so it's relevant in this article. –
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policy reminds us that any undiscussed edit that is not disputed by later
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I added this then changed my mind, so my opinion should count for more –
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and thus accessible somehow (even if at expense and trouble), as well as
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I won't accept your argument until you cite sources I can check myself.
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of this essay on making solid arguments in Knowledge (XXG) discussions.
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3630:: This material would be against policy on the Arabic Knowledge (XXG).
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People in my city haven't heard of this, so it must be unimportant. –
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next to my work telling others they were not supposed to delete it –
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Is the only elementary school on Clubbington Street in Eastgrove. –
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edits by a blocked or banned user in violation of their block or ban
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There is no distinction between using online versus offline sources.
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This content is very harmful to many people. Get rid of this now! –
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says we should do this", but rather "I believe we should do this,
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on Knowledge (XXG). To avoid this, Knowledge (XXG) should include
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I work for this company and know this is about to happen there –
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I know I can improve it, I just have no time now to explain how.
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before you solicit "votes" one way or the other in a discussion.
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that can be useful in improving content than the default Google
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encyclopedic, and whether it meets Knowledge (XXG)'s policies.
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You would be doing me a big favor if you changed your opinion –
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a page, even if proposed changes are well-justified. Per the
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Without this information, this company will lose business –
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The author of this has a history of writing good content. –
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taken notice, not on subjective judgments of whether people
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usable content, however, it may well be best to remove it.)
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List of policies and guidelines to cite in deletion debates
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search. However, since content can be verified entirely by
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3509:: this person's brother is famous, so he's famous too. –
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in place and transportation related deletion discussions
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exist, rather than the state of sourcing in articles;
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other words, the remedy for such content is cleanup,
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2781:. One would not expect to find 100,000 hits on an
1930:someday but probably not" handwaving, and "who'll
1770:I can't access this so I don't know if it's true.
1135:. And besides, you would not write facts about an
820:Content on Knowledge (XXG) is judged based on its
4555:Knowledge (XXG) essays about Wikipedian fallacies
2902:I've added a lot of information on the subject –
2191:. All included information must be verifiable by
2082:Content of a potentially dubious nature that is
1607:With that said, if content is so bad that it is
593:, content discussions are not "votes". They are
4117:, and we encourage people to put forward their
3987:not an indiscriminate collection of information
3964:This thing exists, so it should be included. –
3734:has information that is even less important. –
2136:– the version specific to page-deletion debates
1535:This paragraph is messy and poorly laid out. –
2932:We don't have enough information about this –
2849:This content was written by a single editor –
1247:for that). A guide to the best restaurants in
4534:How to save an article nominated for deletion
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3949:You are trying to remove true information! –
2917:Article is only one line. Clearly a DICDEF –
2879:compliance with other policies and guidelines
1894:Creator has totally neglected this article –
1668:With only offline sources given, there is no
1521:Has a lot of misspelling and poor grammar. –
1320:Why change this, it is not harming anyone. –
1251:would be useful, but is not included because
1239:would be useful, but is not included because
1231:would be useful, but is not included because
1032:should be excluded require an explanation of
870:This is great, and I think it should stay. –
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3062:I know it well. It's on my way to school. –
2384:This was mentioned in the community times –
2266:Someone on this blog said that it is true –
1717:All the sources given have fallen victim to
1036:policy the content fails and explanation of
750:You should also make yourself familiar with
2610:inclusion is not an indicator of notability
2582:The argument also exists in inverted form:
2095:other (e.g. political, religious) promotion
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4015:That's only a guideline, proposal or essay
3921:Knowledge (XXG) should be about everything
2461:sections (see the specific guidelines for
2187:On Knowledge (XXG), inclusion is based on
1934:work on it?" attempts to skirt the rules:
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427:Knowledge (XXG):But there must be sources!
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4288:discussions. Remember, when you comment,
4162:to do it, and guidelines to help us with
2325:requires that content must be sourced to
1623:, or unsourced negative statements about
1349:No content on Knowledge (XXG) is censored
404:since that is what everyone else wants –
188:Arguments to make in deletion discussions
4389:Knowledge (XXG) is not advertising space
2309:Look what I found about it on Twitter –
2280:A friend told me about it on Facebook –
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1864:This hasn't been improved in 2 years! –
63:Knowledge (XXG)'s policies or guidelines
4111:Knowledge (XXG) is not a system of laws
2834:A lot of editors have worked on this –
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1070:No one is interested in reading that –
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1653:The only sources given are offline. –
499:Just pointing at a policy or guideline
3883:x, provided I get to do y at article
2777:, for instance, specifically states,
1595:In the Wiki model, content which may
1578:Knowledge (XXG) is a work in progress
1253:Knowledge (XXG) is not a travel guide
1056:Makes the article more interesting –
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3397:Verifiability is based upon whether
2757:Although using a search engine like
2729:Zero Google hits, must be a hoax. –
2714:Only 10 Google hits, non-notable. –
2640:to surmount a conflict with current
2142:Relevance and significance fallacies
775:Knowledge (XXG):I just don't like it
463:– There must be plenty of sources.
4039:Knowledge (XXG):The value of essays
3985:. Knowledge (XXG) is specifically
3899:x, unless I get to do y at article
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3577:apply to the subordinate entities.
3426:reverted pending further discussion
3405:requires that information be verifi
1241:Knowledge (XXG) is not a dictionary
1227:A list of all the phone numbers in
3698:Knowledge (XXG):Other stuff exists
2785:. However, the search-engine test
2768:Knowledge (XXG):Search engine test
2686:Knowledge (XXG):Search engine test
2414:One sentence is trivial coverage.
2106:unambiguous copyright infringement
2053:), when to userspace of draftify (
2009:on matters such as when to merge (
1755:The sources are behind a paywall.
1235:. A page simply defining the word
1233:Knowledge (XXG) is not a directory
67:thoroughly vetted by the community
33:Knowledge (XXG):Arguments to avoid
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4005:. Even though that guideline is
3783:doesn't mention this, so article
3642:many languages other than English
3541:The internet's busiest music nerd
2225:I am an expert on this subject –
1484:Additionally, Knowledge (XXG) is
684:I need more time to work on it –
4408:WP:Biographies of living persons
2112:. In the latter case, it is not
1995:one single editor doing the work
1736:The book sources don't have any
1562:We'll find some sources later –
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4425:Knowledge (XXG):Content removal
3618:TrappedBehindTheLanguageBarrier
2089:Material that unambiguously is
1586:Knowledge (XXG) has no deadline
1547:It's not referenced properly –
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1999:written in a collaborative way
601:. Rather than merely writing "
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3983:necessarily mean "everything"
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3581:Wikipedias in other languages
2481:Longevity and false consensus
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1909:Each time we discussed this,
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597:with the goal of determining
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147:Place/transportation deletion
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2429:general notability guideline
1944:PrettyPleaseWithACherryOnTop
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570:we should ignore all rules!
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4001:policy on what facts are
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3670:What about other content?
3219:18:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
3174:18:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
3117:information published in
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2104:Other exceptions include
1970:An Indiscriminate Smelter
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931:03:07, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
897:06:07, 5 April 2004 (UTC)
805:Makes article look bad –
152:File deletion discussions
4478:in adminship discussions
4294:accusations of bad faith
3995:verifiability, not truth
3967:JohnPaulSartre&Ringo
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2033:), when to move a page (
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1328:05:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
972:Does not belong here. –
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4097:is only a guideline. –
3127:but not always the case
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2872:13:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
2857:13:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
2842:13:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
2653:status-quo stonewalling
2603:nothing is set in stone
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1916:Last straw was long ago
1798:On Knowledge (XXG), we
1393:In some cases, such as
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266:policies and guidelines
4488:in feature discussions
4079:is only a proposal. –
3462:Subjects are connected
2447:professional reviewers
1690:Jumping to conclusions
1656:Cantmakeittothelibrary
1613:copyright infringement
1289:It doesn't do any harm
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765:Personal point of view
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4393:neutral point of view
4123:reinventing the wheel
3841:neutral point of view
3597:Interwikis=Notability
2986:Subjective importance
2440:neutral point of view
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2128:§ Inaction by editors
2084:about a living person
2065:principle may apply.
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1882:My Way or the Highway
1508:Surmountable problems
1469:SaveTheTroops!Please!
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836:I like it in there –
622:surmountable problems
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114:Arguments to avoid in
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4346:On Knowledge (XXG),
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4127:suitable explanation
3845:no original research
3787:shouldn't either. –
3447:unreasonable demands
3199:Everyone's a psychic
3141:cannot be included.
3000:WP:IVENEVERHEARDOFIT
2783:ancient Estonian god
2646:Consensus can change
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2252:No original research
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1983:there is no deadline
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4498:in deletion reviews
4473:On discussion pages
4348:pages are not owned
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3752:Blay Tant Marqueter
3730:That other article
3430:"gaming the system"
3304:Inaction by editors
3244:Inaction by sources
3224:Knowledge (XXG) is
2950:Impressed by Length
2852:My Personal Article
2573:UnclearOnTheConcept
2346:Trivial information
1478:you need to say why
1457:SaveTheKids!Please!
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955:This offends me. –
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3226:not a crystal ball
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3718:EmperorOtherstuff
3567:original research
3563:Important Subject
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2626:to have consensus
2530:Please study the
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1847:Please study the
1800:assume good faith
1705:Restricted access
1675:The Secret Keeper
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