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is being applied, it may be tempting to try to discredit the rule or interpretation thereof by, in one's view, applying it consistently. Sometimes, this is done simply to prove a point in a local dispute. In other cases, one might try to enforce a rule in a generally
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that point. As a rule, editors engaging in "POINTy" behavior are making edits with which they do not actually agree, for the deliberate purpose of drawing attention and provoking opposition in the hopes of making other editors see their "point". Merely
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create an article on what you consider to be a similarly unsuitable topic, with hopes that others will make the same arguments for deletion.
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Practically speaking, it is impossible for Knowledge (XXG) to be 100 percent consistent, and its rules will therefore
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find a source for it, make the referencing clear if it was already present, or explain why the content in question
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nominate an article for deletion that you don't really believe ought to be deleted, giving the same rationale.
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express your concerns on one of the CheckUser policy talk pages or at a relevant Arbcom page.
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explain why the use of the source in question was appropriate in that instance, or find a
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such hypothetical behavior is fine and does not go against this guideline. For example,
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add even more references to the source, with hopes of provoking opposition to its use.
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explain on the article's talk page why you feel the material merits inclusion.
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express your concerns on the talk pages of articles which cite it, or at the
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summarily remove all references to sources which appear to be self-published.
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Knowledge (XXG):Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass
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you feel that it is too easy to add misinformation to Knowledge (XXG)...
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summarily remove from the page everything which appears to be unsourced.
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By that standard, we ought to remove all the cited sources on this page
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Past decisions by the Arbitration Committee regarding this guideline
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you feel that a particular source does not meet Knowledge (XXG)
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Knowledge (XXG):No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man
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someone deletes from an article information which they call "
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When you have a point to make, use direct discussion only.
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may apply. Substantive edits to this page should reflect
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participate in the discussion, basing your argument on
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suggest another frivolous or inappropriate CheckUser.
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and fact-check anything that looks at all suspicious.
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you think someone unfairly removed a reference to a
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someone nominates one of your favorite articles for
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):POINT
Knowledge (XXG):Neutral point of view
behavioral guideline
exceptions
consensus
this guideline's talk page
Shortcuts
WP:POINT
WP:POINTY
Knowledge (XXG) guidelines
Guidelines list
Policies list
Behavioral
Assume good faith
Conflict of interest
Courtesy vanishing
Disruptive editing
Don't bite the newcomers
Don't disrupt to make a point
Etiquette
Gaming the system
User pages
Other behavioral guidelines
WMF friendly space policy
Discussions
Talk page guidelines
Signatures
Content
Citing sources
External links

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