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I'm curious why this is defined as a historical novel because it's apparently not set in a period far removed from when it was written, which is typically the case for historical fiction. Also, I may have missed it, or not found it yet, but it doesn't seem to be defined as such anywhere except the
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Rosa's parents where arrested, imprisoned and later released several times in her life, including when she was nine. During her mother's last internment she died when Rosa was 14. Her father's last internment was his life-sentence when Rosa was ±23. I hope all this helps.
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I want to re-read this section again. Might be useful to add in the plot summary how old she as the scenes are described. That will help the reader understand that the plot doesn't follow a linear pattern - at least that's my understanding from your explanation.
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How old is Rosa at the opening of the novel? As written the summary mentions that her mother died a decade earlier but later mentions Rosa was nine when both parents were arrested and she was sent to live elsewhere. The chronology is a bit confusing.
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has a FUR, don't be surprised to be challenged about images if you take this to FAC. The lead image of the book cover is non-free and (I think) generally only a single non-free image is allowed. But I'm not an expert on images, and could be wrong.
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as a retrospective homage to generations past, a kind of historical novel without the fancy-dress apparatus and worked-up documentary cast that often characterizes such work"). Do you think these sources are enough to call it an historical novel?
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Maybe instead of jumping in with a quote, try, if possible, to introduce the section with a topic sentence. Something along the line of, "The novel received good reviews" (this is simplified ...)
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