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2635:"The decision to use the Gothic design for the palace set the national style, even for secular buildings, which also "drew attention to the close bond between Church and State at Westminster", according to the political and social historian Dr Roland Quinault." While Dr Quinault is certainly right, I don't quite get the relevance to the legacy of the fire. Unless he is talking of the Gothic styles of the Palace and the Abbey? Again, stylistic POV which you should probably ignore, but I'd go for the other Georg Germann quote we mentioned earlier in the discussion on the lede. Perhaps - The architectural historian Georg Germann wrote that the decision to require the palace to be Gothic in design "established the 2497:"The commission presented their recommendation in February 1836, which was entry 64, identified by a portcullis—the emblem used by the experienced architect Charles Barry, who won £1,500; Barry's original competition drawings are now lost." This sentence packs a lot in! And the use of "emblem" doesn't match the use of "symbol" in the previous, related, sentence. Perhaps - "The commission presented their recommendation in February 1836; the winning entry, which brought a prize of £1,500, was number 64, identified by a portcullis — the symbol chosen by the architect Charles Barry." You could then reference the fate of the drawings - see below. 1969:"More malicious rumours were also reported, when the Prime Minister was anonymously sent a letter claiming it was an arson attack." This sentence has me flummoxed. First, does "more" mean "an additional amount of", or is it qualifying "malicious" and therefore meaning "nastier"? In either case, what were the earlier "malicious rumours"? Then, what does "when" mean here? Rumours were reported when the PM received an anonymous letter? Would I be right in thinking that the intended meaning is something like: "Other rumours began to circulate; the Prime Minister received an anonymous letter claiming that the fire was an arson attack"? 2331:"by which time the new shifts of police and soldiers relieved their colleagues." This sentence repeats "by which time" from the preceding sentence and I think it also has a redundant "the". Perhaps - "The firemen remained in place until about 5:00 am, when they had extinguished the last remaining flames and were relieved by new shifts of police and soldiers." No - that suggests the police and soldiers relieved the firemen. So - "The firemen remained in place until about 5:00 am, when they had extinguished the last remaining flames and the police and soldiers had been replaced by new shifts." 2031:"Although Dickens deplored the cost of rebuilding parliament..." – Did he? The only previous recorded comment from Dickens related to the preservation of the obsolete tally system. I'd personally lose these words; whatever Dickens said hasn't got anything to do with the Palace of Westminster's status as a UNESCO World Heritage Site. I might also slim down the various encomiums to the new building, on the same grounds as indicated above – they tend to shift the focus of the article away from the burning. 2461:"This body determined in which style the new construction should be built, and in June they decided that either Elizabethan or gothic styles should be used. The commission also decided that although the original outline of the palace did not have to be used,.." Three points. First, would it be useful here to include the Germann quote as to why they chose a Gothic style? I can do the necessary reference if you think it would. Secondly, did the Commission actually specify Gothic 2224:"that Joseph Hume, a Radical MP, called debates in 1831 and 1834 to find new accommodation for the House to sit.." Do you call debates or call for them, or call for X in them? And did Hume want accommodation for the House solely to sit in? Or to work in? Appreciate the double meaning of sit here but perhaps - "that, in debates in 1831 and 1834, Joseph Hume, a Radical MP, called for new accommodation for the House, while his fellow MP William Cobbett..." 2625:"The same year Barry was appointed a Knight Bachelor, while Pugin suffered a mental breakdown and spent six months in Bethlehem Pauper Hospital for the Insane; he left the hospital shortly before dying in September." Do ignore, as this is pure stylistic POV, but I wonder if their cruelly contrasting fortunes are captured in "In the same year, while Barry was appointed a Knight Bachelor, Pugin suffered a mental breakdown and, following incarceration at 1866:"The first flames were spotted at 6:00 pm, under the door of the House of Lords, by the wife of one of the doorkeepers; she entered the chamber to see Black Rod's box alight, and flames burning the curtains and wood panels, and she cried out that "The House of Lords is on fire!" Too long, two ands, and you can't have a "that" in front of a direct quote. As we are an encyclopaedia rather than a tabloid, I'd lose the quotes and the exclamation mark. 223:"Successive kings added to the area: Edward the Confessor built Westminster Abbey; William the Conqueror began building a new palace; his son, William Rufus, continued, including Westminster Hall, which was started in 1097" -- This sentence tails off at the end and doesn't really make sense. Rufus continued with what? Building a new palace like his father? From "including" onwards there seems to be a few missing words causing some confusion too. 2469:- checking Jones, I see he specifies "Gothic or Elizabethan" so ignore my query, although it would be most interesting if Rorabaugh has a primary source for the distinction. Thirdly, there is a double "be used". Perhaps the second sentence could be reworded to something like - "The commission also decided that although competitors would not be required to follow the outline of the original palace, the surviving buildings..." 1860:"No one" is two words, no hyphen. But I'm a bit worried about the apparent editorial tone of the sentence: "What no-one appreciated on the day was that the heat from the fires had melted the copper lining of the flues and started a chimney fire." I'd reword this less dramatically, e.g. "Those tending the furnaces were unaware that the heat from the fires had melted the copper lining of the flues and started a chimney fire." 2113: 2504:, he employed Augustus Pugin, a 23-year-old architect who was, in the words of the art historian Nikolaus Pevsner, "the most fertile and passionate of the Gothicists". This amendment would incorporate the detail re. the fate of the original drawings. On an unrelated point, would Pevsner be more commonly known as an "architectural historian"? But perhaps POV on my part. 719: 2215:"The result was something that one visitor to the chamber called "dark, gloomy, and badly ventilated, and so small ... when an important debate occurred ... the members were really to be pitied." Is the first part a little convoluted?Perhaps - The result was described by one visitor to the chamber as "dark, gloomy, and badly ventilated, and so small ... " 2133:"The decision to use the Gothic design for the palace set the national style, even for secular buildings, which also "drew attention to the close bond between Church and State at Westminster", according to the political and social historian Dr Roland Quinault." -this is rather awkward, the "even", "which also" and "according" jar a little, can you reword? 2227:"He decided against giving the sticks away to parliamentary staff to use as firewood,.." I appreciate it's Dr Shenton's view but I do wonder how she knows? Christopher Jones doesn't say it and, to my mind, it matches too closely Dickens's sarcastic suggestion as to how the tally sticks might usefully have been disposed of. But there is a source... 1500:"finish the Victoria Tower, although Barry's death in May that year was before the building work was completed" – the "although" seems odd, as if refuting a causality that doesn't seem to be there. I'd be inclined to make this "finish the Victoria Tower; Barry died in May that year before the building work was completed" – or am I missing a point? 2604:"In Pevsner's view, "he secret" - I haven't a clue as to the Knowledge convention, but this strikes me as very odd. All that has been done is to uncapitalise the "t". Would commonsense not permit either the use of the upper case, or the removal of the ""? Otherwise, I think it is just puzzlingly for the reader as it stands. 1809:"By 1332 the barons—representing the titled classes—and burgesses and citizens—representing the commons—began to meet separately" – too many confusing mdashes. I'd rather see parentheses, thus: "By 1332 the barons (representing the titled classes) and burgesses and citizens (representing the commons) began to meet separately" 1473:"With no English secular Elizabethan or Gothic buildings to use as inspiration" – eh? There were and are quite a few English secular Elizabethan or Gothic buildings. Do you mean "Uninspired by any English secular Elizabethan or Gothic buildings …"? (That would also eliminate the infelicitous repetition of "inspiration"). 1665:, p.68, "(Barry's designs) established Gothic Revival as the principal style of the century". Personally, I'd use Gothic Revival rather than Victorian gothic as I think the former is the more commonly understood architectural term. It is also the term used in the UNESCO report on the site. A possible rewording below. 1409:"The glow from the burning, and the news spreading quickly round London, ensured that a large crowd turned up to watch events" – you've told us before that there was a large crowd. At this point in the text I think you'd be wise to say that crowds continued to turn up, in increasing numbers, or something like that 2529:"Uninspired by any English secular Elizabethan or Gothic buildings, Barry had visited Belgium to view the town halls prior to drafting his design;" A few points. I don't have access to Port - is he the source for this claim? I think we would need a direct source for the suggestion that Barry was unable to find 2618:"In 1852 the Commons was finished and both Houses sat in their new chambers for the first time; Queen Victoria first used the newly completed royal entrance." Does the final clause sit a bit oddly? Perhaps - "In 1852 the Commons was finished and both Houses sat in their new chambers for the first time, 1082: 2400: 2533: 1514:"initially based in Chancery Lane; the body, now based in Kew, has since been renamed as The National Archives" – feel free to tell me to take a running jump, but I'd footnote all this bit. I don't think the location of the PRO or its amalgamation into TNA is of central importance to your narrative. 1205: 2112: 1982: 1295: 1745: 1416: 2371:"a committee of the Lords of the Privy Council sat to investigate the fire." This is, indeed, exactly how Jones describes it but I'm unsure as to why it isn't simply a committee of the Privy Council. Are/were the "Lords of the Privy Council" a recognised sub-set. One for Tim, I think! 2465:? I don't have access to Rorabaugh, and Barry certainly did use an late Gothic style that Germann considers verges on Elizabethan, but to have made the distinction between the two would have displayed considerable architectural sophistication on the part of the Commissioners. 1656: 450:"Barry's wife laid the foundation stone on 27 April 1840, in a building that consisted of 11 courtyards with accommodation for 200 people, with 1,180 rooms, 126 staircases, 2 miles of corridors, 15 miles of stem pipes with 1,200 stop cocks." -- Two "with"'s sounds kind of odd. 302:"By 9:00 pm three Guards regiments arrived on the scene. Although they assisted in crowd control, the move was in part a reaction of the authorities to their fears of a possible insurrection" -- Not quite understanding the latter half of this sentence from "the move" onwards. 1999:. Work started on the building on 1 January 1839. The stone was badly quarried and handled, and with the polluted atmosphere in London it proved to be problematic, with the first signs of deterioration showing in 1849, and extensive renovations required periodically." 226:"By 1245 the King's throne was present in the palace, signifying that the building was the centre of English royal administration" -- By 1245 the King's throne was present in the palace, which signified that the building was at the centre of English royal administration"? 311:"...and had gone by around 3:00 am, by which time the fire near the Hall was nearly gone," -- Two birds with one stone here: gone/gone repetition, but if you loose the last "gone" and replace it with extinguished we've solved it entirely (it sounds a lot better to boot!) 2591:"In June 1838 Barry undertook a tour of Britain..." This jars chronologically with the previous sentence which talks of building work commencing in 1839. Perhaps - "The previous year, Barry had undertaken a tour of Britain..." or "The previous year, Barry undertook..." 2543: 2581: 477: 282:"The glow from the burning, and the news spreading quickly round London, ensured a large crowd turned up to watch events." -- "The glow from the burning, and the news spreading quickly round London, ensured that a large crowd turned up to watch events."? 1897:"For 25 minutes the staff inside the palace panicked and tried to deal with the blaze..." – I rather doubt that they did these things simultaneously for 25 minutes. Perhaps after initially panicking they tried to deal with the blaze? Consider rewording. 691: 238:" This was followed by an 1878 report from fourteen architects warning against the possibility of fire in the palace; signatories included John Soane and Robert Adam. Sloane again warned of the dangers in an 1828 report" -- 1828 report/1828 report -- 2585:"The Westminster site covered eight acres (3.2 ha), and the palace site partly consisted of unstable, marshy ground." Are they two different sites? Perhaps - "The Westminster site covered eight acres (3.2 ha) of partly unstable, marshy ground." 2317:"..and he had his firemen cut away the part of the roof that connected the hall to the already burning Speaker's House, and then soaking the hall's roof to prevent it catching fire." Is there a switch of tense in "soaking"? Perhaps "soak"? 2096:"After a competition to find a new design for the palace, the plans of Charles Barry—who was aided by Augustus Pugin—incorporated the surviving buildings into the new complex." -do we know when this was? When did they decide the competition? 2218:"Over the next three centuries the palace was enlarged and altered to become a warren of wooden passages and stairways." I don't think that was the intention of the alterations. Perhaps - "enlarged and altered, becoming a warren of ...." 834: 1241: 2607:"which changed the character of his design so much he refused to enter the chamber again." I'm not quite sure this fully conveys the magnitude of Barry's gesture. Perhaps - "which changed the character of his design so much 1277: 2567:"reports of the estimates vary from £707,000 to £725,000, with six years until completion of the project." To me, this reads slightly strangely - conflating, as it does, cost and time estimates. Perhaps - "reports of the 453:" In 1852 the Commons was finished and both Houses sat in their new chambers for the first time, and Queen Victoria first used the newly completed Royal Entrance." -- Ouch! The double conjunction really doesn't work here. 2314:"By the time Braidwood and his men had arrived on the scene, he realised that the House of Lords had been destroyed." The destruction had occured, whether or not Braidwood realised it. Perhaps delete "he realised that"? 2541: 1206: 960: 2287:"she entered the chamber to see Black Rod's box alight, and flames burning the curtains and wood panels, and she raised the alarm." Suggest deletion of the second "she". Have avoided any Riley-inspired innuendo. 2594:"consisting 1,180 rooms, 126 staircases, 2 miles of corridors, 15 miles of stem pipes with 1,200 stop cocks." This clause repeats "consist" and is, I think, missing an of after "consisting". Dare I suggest - " 473:"The decision to use the Gothic design for the palace set the national style, even for secular buildings, which also "drew attention to the close bond between Church and State at Westminster". -- Who said this? 299:"who oversaw the upkeep of royal palaces, including the Palace of Westminster." -- palace/palaces. Maybe swap "palaces" for buildings? I should imagine that the royals don't own anything smaller than a palace. 517: 1824: 1983: 1226: 2150: 1132: 2401: 1760: 2208: 898: 296:"Thomas Carlyle, the Scottish philosopher, was one of those present that night, and he later recalled that" -- Should this have a colon at the end? We are also missing an opening quote mark. 1587:"The competition established the Victorian gothic style of architecture as the national norm, even for secular buildings." That strikes me as a little too assertive and perhaps overstated – 204:"The Palace of Westminster, the medieval royal palace used as the home of the British parliament was destroyed by fire of 16 October 1834." -- Are we missing a comma after "parliament"? 2320:"by which time the fire near the Hall was nearly gone, although it was still in situ towards the south of the complex." Perhaps - "by which time the fire near the Hall was nearly 809: 926: 601: 1815:"In the late eighteenth century a committee of MPs reported that there would be a disaster if the palace caught fire". I think "predicted" rather than "reported", which is bland 463:"The fire became "single most depicted event in nineteenth-century London ... attracting to the scene a host of engravers, watercolourists and painters"." -- "The fire became 229:"In 1295 Westminster was used as the venue for the Model Parliament, the first English representative assembly, called by Edward I; he called..." -- called/called repetition. 1529: 1464: 2396: 866: 663: 635: 1191: 1421: 1061: 126: 1382:"the machinations needed to implement change" – not at all keen on "machinations", which I take to mean plotting and conniving, rather than bureaucratic bumbling 2660: 954: 2664: 2273: 235:"St. Stephen's Chapel remained largely unchanged until 1692 when Sir Christopher Wren, at the time the Master of the King's Works, was instructed"...by who? 122: 76: 2571: 2055: 877: 862: 107: 2632:"The final cost of the building came to around £2.5 million." This reuses "final" from the previous sentence. Perhaps "total" or just "The costs.." 573: 2534: 2494:"each entry was to only be identifiable by a pseudonym or symbol." Perhaps - "each entry was to be identifiable only by a pseudonym or symbol." 2008: 966: 750:- The uploader certainly didn't create this image, but just digitized it. We need proper information: what's the source, who's the artist, etc. 99: 369: 1373:"The Palace of Westminster began to be constructed" – a bit jagged. Perhaps "The Palace of Westminster originally dates from…" or some such? 1263: 2183: 757: 1863:"Although these would have been repaired as the child exited" – I can't visualise what you mean here. How would they have been repaired? 1361:"competition established" – you have inadvertently omitted "catastrophically" or "lamentably" between the words. Today's front page boy 545: 467:"single most depicted event in nineteenth-century London ... attracting to the scene a host of engravers, watercolourists and painters"? 720: 440:"After it was built the water was pumped out and the land allowed to dry" -- "After it was built the water was pumped out and the land 409:"The committee thought it unlikely that Cross and Furlong had been as careful in filling the furnaces as they claimed," -- "...as they 161: 1107: 2234: 1987:"In June 1838 Barry and colleagues undertook a tour of Britain to locate a supply of stone for the building, eventually choosing 1083: 747: 210:"The sticks were destroyed in a careless manner..." Is there a careful way to destroy something then? Do you mean "disposed of"? 158: 1390:"Black Rod's box alight" – I believe you've worded it thus to provoke ribald comment from Sarastro, Brian and other cricketers. 1523:"said that the building is in need of extensive repairs" – as you're using indirect speech "is in need" should be "was in need" 1376:"Cnut the Great" – our WP article admits that he is better known as Canute, and I think you should consider piping accordingly. 386: 69: 1004: 406:"...committee, who met in private, heard numerous possibilities of the cause of the fire" -- "...as to the cause of the fire"? 2709: 629: 1133: 1027: 1111: 1036: 1620: 969:- This sketch is certainly not from 2009! When did Constable die? If possible, I'd stick with {{PD-art|PD-old-100}} — 470:"UNESCO describe the site as being "of great historic and symbolic significance", in part because the it is.." -- oops! 1956:"At around 1:30 am the tide on the Thames..." – perhaps the last three words unnecesary? Where else would the tide be? 1706: 1556: 1137: 1365: 2334:"The House of Commons, along with its library and committee rooms were also devastated" - Missing comma after rooms? 1470:"read by Lord Brougham" – I think we need to be told here that Brougham was Lord Chancellor rather than any old peer 787: 2690: 2673: 2652: 2555: 2520: 2485: 2430: 2416: 2391: 2350: 2304: 2261: 2243: 2192: 2177: 2158: 2085: 2064: 2047: 2038: 2017: 1946:"By 9:00 pm three Guards regiments arrived on the scene" → "At 9:00 pm three Guards regiments arrived on the scene" 1928: 1913: 1890: 1851: 1769: 1755: 1728: 1674: 1647: 1629: 1607: 1565: 1548: 1436: 1402: 1319: 1305: 1290: 1272: 1254: 1236: 1221: 1200: 1186: 1163: 1149: 1123: 1101: 1073: 1048: 1013: 996: 978: 945: 917: 889: 853: 821: 799: 774: 738: 710: 682: 654: 620: 592: 564: 536: 505: 490: 428: 395: 378: 360: 336: 268: 250: 188: 115: 62: 1943:"crowds continued to turn up in increasing numbers to watch the events" – I think "spectacle" rather than "events" 1154: 207:"The blaze was caused by the burning of small wooden tally sticks which had been used..." -- "...which were used"? 50: 44: 2682: 2643: 1476:"to complete the necessary pen and ink drawings required" – either necessary or required, but not both, I think. 1741: 929:- When did Barry die? If possible, I'd stick with {{PD-art|PD-old-100}}. Also, where's this digitization from? 327: 2601:"after their deaths their sons publicly argued". Perhaps - "after their deaths their sons argued publicly.." 2476: 2221:"The facilities were so poor for members" - and for everyone else. Perhaps - "The facilities were so poor..." 1800:"The Palace of Westminster began to be constructed..." → "Construction of the Palace of Westminster began..." 1453:"were involved in breaking down doors" – "involved" sounds slightly shady: perhaps "helped break down doors"? 320:" the Law Courts, were damaged and in need of restoration. -- Is "in need of restoration" a little redundant? 1972:"34 of the competitors petitioned parliament at the selection of Barry" – probably "against" the selection? 1497:"ongoing revisions" – nothing actually wrong with "ongoing", but I think "continual" would be more pleasing 2626: 2043: 1909: 1625: 1479: 1314: 1300: 1267: 1231: 1158: 1118: 1068: 1467:"they instructed" – "they ordered"? And I have my doubts about capital C Committee in the same sentence. 1044: 974: 817: 758: 232:"...began to meet separately, and by 1377 the two bodies were entirely separate." -- Separately/separate 154: 92: 17: 1803:"added to the area" – I think I'd say "buildings" or "complex" rather than "area" which is a bit vague. 790: 345:"The British standard measurements, the standard yard and standard pound" -- standard/standard/standard 1533: 548:- Source of the digitization, if possible, would be nice. Also, I'd simplify to {{PD-art|PD-old-100}} 2443:"The committee, who met in private, heard numerous possibilities .." Should this be "The committee, 179: 2409: 1988: 1883: 1713: 1541: 1429: 1286: 1250: 1214: 1181: 604:- PD-70 doesn't apply to the US. This should be PD-100, with Roque's year of death (1762) included. 486: 424: 356: 246: 173: 2099:" The replacement palace has since been categorised as a UNESCO World Heritage Site " -since when? 1900:"now highly visible" – redundant words, since you've just said the fire could be seen from Windsor 2669: 2551: 2516: 2481: 2426: 2387: 2346: 2300: 2257: 2239: 2188: 2060: 2013: 1924: 1847: 1765: 1724: 1643: 1603: 1561: 1398: 1196: 1145: 1097: 1009: 992: 941: 913: 885: 849: 795: 770: 734: 706: 678: 650: 616: 588: 560: 532: 501: 496: 391: 374: 332: 264: 184: 1456:"All of the original Acts" – in BrEng (as opposed to American) I don't think the "of" is wanted. 1709: 2039: 1905: 1621: 1418: 1311: 1297: 1264: 1228: 1155: 1115: 1065: 2546:, which says that there were "... but fragments of Gothic palaces to be found in England". - 2683: 2151: 2078: 1040: 970: 813: 783: 1919: 1821: 1638: 220:"The Palace of Westminster began..." -- The construction can begin, is that what you meant? 576:- Authors? If they're the same as the last one, I'd simplify to {{PD-art|PD-old-100}} too. 1705:, incorporated the surviving buildings into the new complex. The competition established 520: 1106: 2648: 2636: 2619: 2404: 2379: 2173: 1878: 1751: 1736: 1702: 1670: 1536: 1424: 1281: 1245: 1209: 1176: 481: 419: 351: 241: 166: 1412:"Lord Broughton, the Commissioners of Woods and Forests" – As the former Librarian to 293: 2703: 2665: 2564:"Barry planned what Christopher Jones,..." would this section sit better in the next? 2547: 2512: 2477: 2422: 2383: 2342: 2296: 2253: 2235: 2184: 2168: 2056: 2009: 1996: 1920: 1843: 1761: 1720: 1698: 1639: 1599: 1557: 1394: 1192: 1170: 1141: 1093: 1005: 988: 937: 909: 881: 845: 791: 766: 730: 702: 674: 646: 612: 584: 556: 528: 497: 416:"which was entry 64, identified by a portcullis—the entry of the..." -- entry/entry. 387: 370: 328: 260: 180: 162: 1520:"Westminster Palace" – the Palace of Westminster is the only proper term, in my view 692: 1413: 1092: 837:- Link to the source? Also, {{PD-Art|PD-anon-1923}} (we need something for the US) 1959: 289: 1511:"The fire became single" – missing a definite article before "single", I think. 835: 765:. I'd prefer the more contemporary version in his uniform, if possible tho. - 1661: 762: 2644: 2588:"After it was built the water was pumped out.." Missing comma after "built"? 2169: 1747: 1666: 1362: 2622: 1310: 2109:"hugely effective" -not too keen on that, can you think of an alternative? 1503:"overseen by Barry's son, Edward" – "his" rather than "Barry's", possibly? 2511: 901:- When did Knight die? If possible, I'd stick with {{PD-art|PD-old-100}} 2143: 2002: 1598: 1992: 1710: 348:"the measurements had been created in 1496 by Edward I" -- Relevant? 170: 961: 2421: 1663: 305: 518: 447:"... it has proved to be problematic" -- "has" is redundant here. 1842: 1033: 1697: 1491:"a stonemasons strike" – arguably wants a possessive apostrophe 1173: 1039: 2034:£3 billion? Bugger that! Large tent, couple of thousand max. 1719: 1169:...or, "The Biggest Explosion in Parliment; until 2002, when 2364:"they ordered a list of witness to be drawn up,.." "witness 1379:"Westminster was used as the venue" – just "was the venue"? 899: 876: 1790:"classed" and "classified" in close proximity, last line. 1806:"which included Westminster Hall, which..." – repetition 1578: 1818: 1129: 141: 134: 103: 1835: 1494:"Royal Entrance" – I boggle a bit at the caps for this 2277: 927: 602: 317:"its robing rooms and committee rooms" -- rooms/rooms 308:"Westminster Hall was regarded as safe..." -- by who? 2458: 2280:"Another witness to events, Richard Reynolds,.." - " 157:, the medieval royal palace used as the home of the 694:- PD-100 is probably a better choice for templates. 314: 1701:. Barry's plans, developed in collaboration with 2500:"to complete the necessary pen and ink drawings, 729:Wasn't going to - feel free to nom it yourself - 638:Again, {{PD-Art|PD-anon-1923}} works best here. 1870:Dejected to find my speculation above unfounded 867:File:Augustus Welby Northmore Pugin from NPG.jpg 664:File:The Palace of Westminster on Fire, 1834.JPG 636:File:The Burning of the Houses of Parliament.jpg 1949:"as was the unrest from..." – needs to be "as 1812:"to slow the progress of the fire" – drop "the" 1062:Burning of the Parliament Buildings in Montreal 1108:Burning of the Parliament Buildings in London 955:File:House of Common, London (7654658782).jpg 70: 8: 285:"Among them, The Times reported,"-- Did the 150:This peer review discussion has been closed. 1024:a publicly run Brigade - why the capital B? 748:File:Engraving of James Braidwood, 1861.JPG 1517:"the cost of re-building" – hyphen wanted? 77: 63: 32: 2454:"The committee issued their report.." - " 2451:" would suit rather than "possibilities"? 878:File:Augustus Welby Northmore Pugin00.jpg 863:File:Augustus Welby Northmore Pugin00.jpg 574:File:House of Lords Microcosm edited.jpg 2639:as the principal style of the century." 2077:Will look at this later this evening.♦ 812:)... but we need better information. — 35: 1616:Yes, but surely he meant the norm for 1060:Should this not be disambiguated from 967:File:Fire Sketch by John Constable.jpg 259:All done as requested. Many thanks! - 1953:", since you follow with two examples 1134:1834 fire of the Palace of Wetminster 7: 2447:met in private.." and I wonder if " 1128:There's a few listed in one of the 1112:Burning of British Parliament, 1834 546:File:House of Commons Microcosm.jpg 1716:, of outstanding universal value. 24: 2328:towards the south of the complex. 1055:Driveby comment from Curly Turkey 722:- Fine (you saving this for FPC?) 1138:Palace of Westminster fire, 1834 153:On 16 October 1834 the ancient 2212:White Chamber." 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