Knowledge:Peer review/Ezra Pound/archive2

3304:"entirely mistaken but fruitful idea that each character represented an image rather than a phonetic and meaningless transcription": with this wording, it seems as if the mistake were that the characters were actually "phonetic and meaningless". The error is that each character is pictographic—the truth that a minority of the characters have pictographic origin, but most don't, and of those that do, the "picture" has often evolved away from its origin to such a degree that it has become entirely obscure. Some characters have phonetic "hints", but never in any obvious, systematic, or very helpful way. 5368:

though, Pound felt Gaudier-Brzeska was immensely talented and he was absolutely appalled and then devastated that a talent such as his was lost to trench warfare. It was a bloody war; many many lives lost and had an enormous effect. Gaudier-Brzeska was deeply in love with his female companion, some 15 years older, if I remember correctly, so again, would want a very strong source to lean on to add something like this. I could be wrong though and so invite others to comment. Thanks so much btw - these have been very valuable.

3216:- I missed your post but I'm glad you posted. I realize I'm the one who must have misunderstood. I assumed it was Alexander's credentials that were being asked for, i.,e "Pound scholar Alexander". I hadn't realized it was as simple as whether or not to attribute. That's a simpler issue. CT, am I right about that? We're supposed to get snow again tomorrow so am hoping to address the issues not yet done. 4082:"The incident involved a stranded chorus girl to whom he offered tea and his bed for the night when she was caught in a snowstorm; when she was discovered the next morning by the landladies, his insistence that he had slept on the floor was met with disbelief and he was asked to leave the college." - Not an issue, but I can't say I blame the landlord for not believing him. 4916:"Ashes of Europe Calling", in which he would recommended peace with Japan, American management of Italy, the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine, and leniency toward Germany. His requests were denied and the script was forwarded to Hoover. - A 180 degree turn. Erm... is there any indication whether he was serious with this, or just trying to please the Americans? 4768:

his letter to his parents, nothing else is written about this situation. It's a reason I decided to add biographies to the scholarship section. Omar only died recently, but perhaps when Moody finishes his volume about those years, it might be explained better. Or not – because they seem to have been extremely reticent.

2795:, and in the jostle I saw a beautiful face, and then, turning suddenly, another and another, and then a beautiful child's face, and then another beautiful face. All that day I tried to find words for what this made me feel." ": obviously Pound, but it just attacks us suddenly in the middle of the paragraph 3608:

Hi. My removals were basically to do with narrative flow; given that Pound was such a complex character I found quotes in the lead (Hemmingway) lacking context and confusing to the central trust of the article. Also the endless publishing details; more suited to a sub-article or list of works of some

3450:

I really appreciate the time you've taken to do such a good and close review, especially when I was about to bail. You've brought a number of problems to light that will take a bit of time to sort through. I've made comments throughout, more as reminders to myself to check sourcing. Others I've fixed

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I think you're misreading what I've said. The vast majority of readers will not know who Victoria is, or even that she has made any sort of contribution to this article. Further, there are plenty of very notable people with their own articles who talk about things far outside their field—I remember

3076:

I totally sympathize, but at the same time, this is Knowledge, and Knowledge has a reputation of quoting "reliable sources" with opinions from random people. How much confidence should the reader have that this isn't the quote of some pop star who happened to have read "In a Station in the Metro" in

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Yikes! I think you've read an awful lot more into the word "colourful" than I meant—nishiki-e were the full-colour ukiyo-e prints that became popular after the 1760s. There was a century of ukiyo-e before then, but they tended to be monochromatic, or made use of an extrmely limited palette (usually

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Which I interpret as "don't move or replace the original punctuation", which having a period outside the quotes wouldn't do. What's happening in such a sentence is that you're slicing a juicing string from the original and transplanting it into a new sentence. The final period is not a part of that

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so, no, he didn't embrace facism fully yet in the 20s. The 20s was a somewhat dormant period for him; a time when he worked with Hemingway and Joyce in Paris, moved to Italy, wrote an opera, children were born and so on. But I understand what you're asking for now - we can slip in something about the

5342:

Should we talk about Pound's sexuality? Daniel Tiffany heavily implies that Pound and Smith may have been more than friends, and there is a master's thesis titled "Ezra Pound and Henri Gaudier-Brzeska: Sexuality and Orientation" that appears (from a quick look) to suggest a very "close" relationship

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Answer to this comment and the one above: I've recast somewhat. I don't know what happened to the family who raised Mary, but she went on the convent school and joined her mother in Venice, and stayed with Olga when she had to leave Venice. I see what you mean - seems odd that at 19 Mary didn't know

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in March 1926 – after returning from a three-month visit to Egypt – she announced that she too was pregnant. - was it Pound's? Is there actual discussion on this, or at least Dorothy's fidelity? I think this brings up too many questions to let it just hang. Even a note that Pound recognized Omar as

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Also, I would simply say: "He spent months in detention in a U.S. military camp in Pisa, including 25 days in a six-by-six-foot outdoor steel cage that he said triggered a mental breakdown, "when the raft broke and the waters went over me." I wouldn't add: "He described the experience as." These are

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Hi, not sure what to do at the moment, in case I restore things that were removed on purpose, so I've been taking a back seat. Re: alt text, there's no need for a long description, and in fact people with sight issues have complained about long alt text, so one word is enough just to stop the screen

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Tony's got a message on his page that he doesn't normally take part in reviews that aren't at FAC. I've seen him fail to respond to similar requests before. I think he may assume people should have read his message and thus just ignores such requests. Let's just assume I'm right and everyone else

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also says: "When a quoted sentence fragment ends in a period, some judgment is required". So I've split the difference and pulled the punct outside of the quote marks for fragments, but invariably there will be inconsistencies imo. (And no need for my opinion re LQ here). If I know the sentence ends

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Almost certainly pre-1923, but the Beinecke file lacks a date. The image has been removed from the article at least once, but was published as a postcard and I believe this is one of the images we did have approved by a copyright expert some years ago. I need to find those discussions, but if memory

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Arrowsmith made an exhaustive search of the records there and has documented the prints they looked at. I've tried to find on the British museum website the one that he speculates may have been the inspiration for the "Metro" but it's not included in their digital images. In his lecture he's fairly

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Normally we only include inline cites for potentially controversial material in the lead—I don't see why the note at the end of the first paragraph needs to be there, and I don't see why an article in the Guardian should be included at all, if not as a ref for soething in the body. The refs at the

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Difficult situation and the reason comprehensiveness is important (also it's spun out a bit more in Dorothy's article). The child wasn't Pound's, didn't grow up with them, but had Pound's name (and I've changed the link to reflect that). Beyond what's in this article and Dorothy's, the quote about

4144:

See long conversation above with Curly Turkey. It's newish scholarship, speculation only with Arrowsmith admitting that Pound was "cagey" about his sources. I'm not completely convinced it should be there, but having worked on Hemingway, whose word is often taken with a grain of salt about his own

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is linked two sentences up so we know he's not a random person we brought in off the street. That said, since this is a collaborative effort between three editors, we can change throughout if all agree. The sources are fairly exhaustive and quite reliable. If not, and if reliability is something I

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Arrowsmith showed it in his lecture and I looked on Commons, then at the British Museum, and then simply searched g-images on Harunobo's name b/c I knew I'd recognize it. Thing is though, I'm not sure whether it's worth spending too much time on b/c it's speculation on Arrowsmith's part. Aldington

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pics Smith gave him. What Smith gave him for the first time in his life was a very avant-garde view of art - beyond that, dunno, but wouldn't want to add anything without being able to lean heavily on a source. I have streamed Gaudier-Brzeska back in - that got lost to the trimming shears! Again,

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No, you were right the first time (credentials). We shouldn't assume readers will know who these people are, as little aesthetically pleasing as it may be. There's no attribution issue—it clearly states "Alexander writes". If Alexander is mentioned earlier, then it would be best to qualify him

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The fullness of the achievement for the modernists is that they renewed interest in multiculturalism, multilingualism, and perhaps of greater importance, they treated translations not in a strict sense of the word but instead saw a translation as the creation of an original work. - Feels like it

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Re: the lead, I would restore the bit about him helping his friends, because that really sums him up. (Hemingway wrote of him in 1925: "He defends when they are attacked, he gets them into magazines and out of jail. ... He writes articles about them. He introduces them to wealthy women. He gets

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should be "The fullness of the achievement for the modernists is that they renewed interest in multiculturalism and multilingualism, and, perhaps of greater importance, they treated translations not in a strict sense of the word but instead saw a translation as the creation of an original work."

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Knowledge to see such a person quoted. More importantly, though, I think it's important to let the reader know why we are quoting a particular person, especially if they are not well known outside their field, and telling us who they are, I think, is a sufficient and appropriate way to do it.

4562:". The problem is that at the moment the clock is ticking in regards to books on loan from the library - so triage will be required - but the links are all here and some will be turned blue fairly soon. We can add to them, and personally I wouldn't mind seeing red links in the nav template. 1821:

If twenty of the hundred copies were given away, then obviously a hundred copies were not sold at six cents, were they? And I can't help feeling that the "72 pages" thing is trivial—it draws attention to itself, and makes the reader want to think there is some significance to the number.

1049:

Don't know about that particular quote, but just noting here that logical punctuation requires that we use the punctuation of the source, and aesthetic that we place periods and commas inside regardless. Also, "nevertheless" refers back to "His political views ensure that his work remains

2849:

The Arrowsmith lecture linked above is really quite excellent and explains well imo. The intent wasn't to copy forms but rather to meld eastern with western or vice versa. The poem is 18 syllables and I suspect probably intentionally so. If I find something to cite that, will slip it in.

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I'm happy closing down here and turning over to you and SV for now. I tend to work harder than I should anyway and the aftermath isn't always nice. A small break would do me some good and the two of you are the better writers for the copyedit, which I guess would the next logical step.

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as foreign editor of several American literary magazines, - not quite sure what is meant here (i.e. this is a bit ambiguous). He couldn't have been a foreign editor of an American magazine, as he was American. Would phrasing such as "editor of localized American literary magazines",

4371:"I should like to think that the manuscript, with the suppressed passages, had disappeared irrecoverably; yet, on the other hand, I should wish the blue pencilling on it to be preserved as irrefutable evidence of Pound's critical genius." - is the manuscript still extant? 3637:

Okay, thank you. I'm worried about doing anything in case Victoria is pulled in several directions so I thought we could wait until the peer review is over, then discuss any final copy-editing (if wanted). Maybe we could talk about the lead at the final polishing stage?

2766:"Superfluous words, particularly adjectives, were to be avoided, as were expressions like "dim lands of peace", which he believed mixed the abstract and concrete and so dulled the image.": "he" at the beginning of a paragraph without letting us know who "he" is 4889:

Pound borrowed a pair of hiking boots and a knapsack and left the city, having finally decided to tell Mary about his wife and son. - So, Mary was sent to Switzerland before Dorothy moved in? The phrasing used above this sentence doesn't quite leave that

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I left during the the arb case and when I came back I promised myself to stay away from i-box discussions for at least 6 months. I'm not thick-skinned enough for it, and would like to stick to that rule. That said, I think this is an article that might

3253:

It's not aesthetics but because on recent FACs the feedback has been to remove. That's why I'd like input from the others. But it's an easy fix. I'll be adding others (scholars) tomorrow, so I think it's best to do in a single edit from top to bottom.

2937:, although these are not a literal translation, but personal interpretations and a consist of a poem in its own right.": uncited, and ... is it multiple translations of one poem? Anyways, there are multiple problems with this grammar of this sentence 2643:"Pound understood that to change the structure of your language is to change the way you think and see the world.": the use of "you" here may be too informal for an encyclopaedia. Also, "understood" implies this is a known fact, rather than a belief 1806:

It's describes as a 72 page book in green wrappers. Yes, he had a 100 copies printed but the first 20 were trimmed out incorrectly by the printer and he sent them to his family, I believe. It's quite a rare book. I can swap out the source if needed.

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only one or two extra colours, if any). It was the nishiki-e that caught the eyes of Western collectors—Sharaku, Hokusai, Utamaro, Hiroshige. All I was saying was that "ukiyo-e" was correct, but so was "nishiki-e" (since nishiki-e are ukiyo-e).

3504:

As always, my first pass is for typos only. I've amended a few, and Americanized a few British spellings in the main text (I hope I am right in assuming AmEnglish is correct for this subject). Will be back with comments on the prose shortly.

2350:

Well, "ukiyo-e" vs "nishiki-e" is a quibble—most Western collectors were interested in the nishiki-e, and I don't see any evidence of Pound being the hardcore sort of collector who would've been interested in the less colourful examples.

2484:

did mention specific prints in letters and those have been matched to poems, but Arrowsmith says Pound was much "cagier" in that regard. I tried again to find it and can't find that particular link, but here's one from the Met,

901:

Well, I think that requires some clarification. Why would he remain dormant for the remainder of the decade? That's surprising, especially given how productive the Modernists were (or are perceived to have been) at the time.

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serves, in the end we decided on the FUR. I might contact the Beinecke at some point in regards to a couple of other images (the modernists are difficult in terms of images) and will keep this in mind. Thanks for mentioning.

2395:

Can you share the details of the print you're looking for? Maybe I can help track it down. After all, they're prints, so they often appear in multiple collections (so it's not necessarily limited to the British Museum).

2280:

didn't appear until the mid-18th century. Also, Pound didn't actually have much knowledge of Japanese, did he? You might want to make that clear, as the reader may be left wondering if he was reading the poetry on these

4898:

that Ezra had another family, but he essentially kept two households, one with Dorothy and one with Olga, so until that point Mary hadn't been told. She might have suspected, but that's outside the sources and guesswork.

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print he almost certainly saw in the British Library (Richard Aldington mentions the specific prints he matched to verse), and probably attempted to write haiku-like verse during this period. - do we know more about this

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Pound's first trip overseas came two years later when he was 13, three-month tour of Europe with his mother and Aunt Frances, who took him to England, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, and Italy. - a bit lengthy. Perhaps

1087:: "This punctuation system does not require placing final periods and commas inside or outside the quotation marks all the time but rather maintaining their original positions in (or absence from) the quoted material." 5386:

Always a pleasure. If most mainstream scholarship does not discuss it (and, indeed, I only found the two, though that was more of a casual search than anything) then I agree Pound's sexuality does not need discussion

5362:

I'm not seeing anything about his sexuality in the biographies or literature, unlike Hemingway, where it is mentioned. I checked all the bios and Carpenter, never one to mince words, says Pound was "appalled" by some

5074:

Ignoring Victorian and Edwardian strictures, grammar and structure, he created a unique form of poesy and speech, employing odd and strange words, jargon, eschewing common discourse, using rhetorical devices such as

4095:

and they became close friends, although Yeats was older by 20 years. - at this point in the narrative, Pound is still not in London. I think this clause disturbs the flow (especially since you haven't said they met

1061:"requires that we use the punctuation of the source": only in the sense that you don't alter it (e.g. replacing the period with a comma, if the sentence were to continue—in which case, obviously, the only place you 162:

I've listed this article for peer review because I've lost perspective and it needs looking at before deciding whether to take to FAC. It's a long page, so huge thanks in advance to the person who does the review!

332:. That means it doesn't need a Fair Use Rationale, though it may not be eligible to be uploaded to Commons (as Europe doesn't have that 1923 rule). Knowledge's servers are in the US, so only US law applies here. 1023:

Notable crank Curly Turkey wrote that Pound's frequent use of capitalization to emphasize words in his prose "makes him look like a 16-year-old stoner on Usenet who has just discovered the caps lock key".

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Victoria, thanks for the ping. I can't see a problem with attributing the view to Alexander. His name is linked at the top of the same paragraph, unless I've misunderstood what's being discussed.

804:, or at least not what one would expect (and was it limited to tanka? I have no sources in front of me, but I could have sworn that "In a Station in the Metro" was said to be inspired by haiku). 3163:

can chime in here. Btw - small request, I'd prefer if in your post above you change the name to match my username or simply to "Victoria". I didn't want to take the liberty to change it myself.

2878:

in 1917 during the First World War to Pound's great distress.": we're jumping way ahead in time here—it seems to tie the publishing of the poems and the death together, which I doubt is the case

5306:'s work, who had visited - I'd rephrase this as "the work of Hugh Kenner, who had visited", as I am fairly certain that his work (the noun in the current construction) never visited anyone. — 4512:

page that has a link to '']'', a book of poems by Ezra Pound—which is a horrible idea. I think this is problematic enough to warrant an emergency stub (would it be something like ] or ] ...?

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Yes, that's what I remember about alt text too. I made a copy/paste error on the lead and somehow muddled the two versions, but fixed now I think. I've mentioned the EH quote on the talk.

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He asked her to marry him in the summer of 1907, though her father refused permission, and wrote several poems for her between 1905 and 1907, twenty five of which he hand-bound and called

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which proceeded on Fenellosa's entirely mistaken but fruitful idea that each character represented an image or pictograph, based on sight rather than sound - perhaps a comma before which?

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Pound knew no Chinese himself, and was working from the posthumous notes of an American who had studied Chinese under a Japanese teacher. - feels redundant to the preceding paragraph

2012:"had made a particular kind of Victorian verse – stirring, pompous, and propagandistic – popular with the public": did they make it popular, or did they make such a kind of poetry 1526:

Or clarifying by adding something like "tried to annoy the professor by ..." That he would be so obnoxious I think would be good to include (gives us insight into his character).

565:

The "Further reading" section is quite (gratuitously?) long, and I might separate out things like the link to Gutenberg into an "External links" section. And, I mean, seriously,

1606:"forced out of one house after "wo stewdents found me": I'm not fond of this style{{subst:emdsh}}when read aloud, the unannounced shift from third- to first-person can be jarring 2038:"The house (see right) sat across": drop the "see right"—someone who moves, removes, or replaces the image quite likely will not think of checking the text for such instructions 1018:

Notable crank Curly Turkey wrote, "Pound's use of typography in his prose often makes him look like a 16-year-old stoner on Usenet who has just discovered the caps lock key."

5247:

Pound thought writing the cantos meant writing an epic about history and economics, and he wove his economic theories through the cantos - way to avoid repeating "cantos"?

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as it is until that's rectified. A number of pages were created during the last round of work on this page and hopefully more will be again. That's about all I can say.

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without adhering to the traditions of the form, yet, in them Pound simultaneously explores multiple themes. - the last subject was "the form", which would not be "them"

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be worth discussing in a calm, civil, manner and I'd probably invite other editors who've not edited the article to participate. Next summer maybe? Or in a year or so?

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I'm not sure about this. If he hadn't actually been standing at the scene of on attempted assassination he might not have felt the need to flee. Thinking about this.

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publishers to take their books. He sits up all night with them when they claim to be dying ... he advances them hospital expenses and dissuades them from suicide.")

1005:"Hemingway nevertheless wrote": I don't think it's unusual that great works are considered "unsafe for children", so I don't think the "nevertheless" is appropriate. 924:

Sorry, misunderstood. The sentence reads: "where throughout the 1930s and 1940s he embraced Benito Mussolini's fascism, expressed support for Adolf Hitler" : -->

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I've trimmed out the "External links" (and thanks for the reminder!). I think here, you're referring to the "Works" section? I wouldn't mind moving back to the

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Agree. I think we need to regroup and talk things through outside of PR. Victoria you did really well here responding, and the article benifted significantly.

2824:.": since he didn't follow the style of haiku in a literal way (no 5-7-5, no obvious reference to the season), it might be best to explain briefly what he did. 2548:

article, and have been uploading a lot of images. I was surprised such a prominent image wasn't on Commons, so I wanted to find a high-quality one to upload.

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sort. If the the removals can be better woven into the text, I have no objections. I'm being bold in other words, but aint proud; its for us here to decide.

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and began writing fiction that he hoped he could sell, and by the summer was in Venice, living over a bakery near the San Vio bridge.": I'd cut this in two.

1715:"in his pocket, but during the next few months earned money as a guide to American tourists": I'd drop the "but", as nothing's really being contrasted here. 5348:

That being said, sources I've been looking at suggest that Gaudier-Brzeska was more of an influence on Pound than this article conveys. Worth including? —

4050:, and left the country for fear he would be identified with them. - don't think "actually" adds much here. Would "when anarchists attempted to assassinate 3649:

Sure, and I accept your points on the lead you mentioned on the talk. The only thing I was caucious about was the Hemmingway quote. But anyway, onwards ;)

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I would expect the sources to name them, but an encyclopaedia article is meant to be comprehensive, not exhaustive. The names are trivial in the context.

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Sorry, just jumping in here. Dashes would reduce it to: "Pound's first trip overseas came two years later when he was 13 ... who took him to England ..."

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Very useful comment – it's a new section and still finding its place. I've tweaked a little for the moment, but need to do a bit more work there I think.

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a work called "The Development of Literature in Southern Europe"? Most likely the former, so I guess "on" should be replaced with "called" or something

1581:"The town and college were conservative, and he was unhappy there": politically or socially conservative? Was he unhappy because of their conservatism? 4490:

is a redirect and it's been on my to-do list for years; all of Pound's major works should have separate pages imo and I'm inclined to keep the link to

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Would like to get into the sources again because most of them mention the landladies who were scandalized. It's a minor detail, but thinking about it.

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magazine called him - rather shocking jump from today to 80 years in the past (not quite "remains" controversial). Perhaps reworking would avoid this?

2530:

Never mind, it looks like this print indeed has no signature on it. I can't find an explanation for it, but it looks like some prints went unsigned.

855:

The second paragraph gives us a bunch of "he"s without telling us who "he" is (yes, of course it's obvious who, but I don't think it's the best style)

34: 3671:, I'll take a step back to collect my very fragmented thoughts after immersing myself a little too much in the Pound lit. over the last week or so. 3519:

Thanks Tim. Yes, I think we should use Am English – I never notice the discrepancies and need another eye for that. Thanks for the typo fixes too.

1559:"In the fall of 1907 he took a job as a teacher": beginning not only a paragraph, but an entire subsection with "he" is, I think, not the best style 4441:

Skipping ahead, just a bit, I note that you haven't put where Dorothy was buried... next to Pound? Any reason why not, if not? (Perhaps a footnote)

2378:

clear that it's "ukiyo-e", and the less salacious, if that's what you're suggesting, as the shunga were kept locked up. Though one never knows.

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Putting down a marker that I'll gladly review the article during the weekend. As it's a whopper I may need several nibbles at it. Back soonest.

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His daughter Mary, then 19, was sent to Gais in Switzerland, - when did Mary start living with Olga again? What happened to the German peasant?

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I'll see how much help I can give with what's on the internet. Should at least be able to get start-class articles out of a couple of these. —

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He complained shortly after arriving in Paris that he had been there for three months without having managed to find a mistress. - to Dorothy?

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This is a very engaging read, and I've chuckled in places. Don't worry about my nit-picks... you've already hooked me. More on the morrow. —

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created. If I've named the page wrong, we can move it. I have tons to add to this, but don't want to lose the thread on the main page yet.

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Doubtful but maybe. Certainly to everyone else. This is well-known and in the all the bios and imo written as delicately as possible here.

1505:"taking out an enormous tin watch and winding it with slow precision": is there some significance to this, or was he just being obnoxious? 4508:

I can't say it's a good idea at all to keep the link to Cathay, since it's obviously not the Cathay the text is referring to. There's a

1126:—whether the original sentence was finished or not is completely irrelevant. It would be silly instruction creep to say that the period 5415: 605:, keeping some "Selected works" on the bio page, but don't want to make a unilateral decisions without agreement. Awaiting opinion from 135: 3062:

I hesitate (greatly) to put "Pound critic" or "literary critic" in front of all the critics because it becomes redundant. SV or Ceoil?

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Noted - haven't fixed b/c there will be others with the number of contributors working the page. Would like to get them all in one go.

753:"was an American expatriate": I feel like this should be "expatriate American"—otherwise it feels like "expatrite" is describing "poet" 5278:

make its way into the text, somewhere? I mean (working from memory), he uses the book to both espouse his ideas of poetry and music.

5049:

sees evidence of modernism in Pound's poetry before he began the cantos - any way to avoid having a three "modern"s in one sentence?

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on watch and was stunned when I looked at it - very nice job. It is a nice image and if you upload I would use in the "Metro" page.

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in 1919. - this requires contextual knowledge that the average reader may not have yet. Not sure if it's a serious problem or not.

131: 4167:

Alexander writes that in some circles Pound's translations made him more unpopular than the treason charge, and the reaction to

1631:", Misses Ida and Belle Hall,": the names are a trivial detail that could safely be dropped (especially in such a long article) 78: 5086:

I've trimmed out a bit, but imo these sections are necessary and, with a technician like Pound, hard to avoid to some extent.

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on Knowledge. Neither have articles either! On a more relevant note, a question: should we include "the" here for both titles?

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don't seem to understand, then I've been doing the wrong thing for too long and it's time for me to hang up my Knowledge hat.

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A number of paragraphs begin with "he"—I don't think that's a very good style. Same for headings such as "Books published in

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I've shrunk them. Prefer to keep rather than changing quoted text and as your comment shows, they give a glimpse of the man.

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I removed Yeats. I think two instances of Pound in a single sentence is too many, but will try to swing through to re-cast.

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SlimVirgin, I'm inclined to trust your editorial judgement, so please dont feel you might be stepping on toes or anything.

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James Knapp - I think we should note why his opinion is relevant, especially as we don't have a link. "James Knapp of the

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his father died in February 1942 – and Pound had his mother and Dorothy to look after. - did he not pay Olga's way, or…?

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in a full stop because the book is sitting on my lap and I can see, I prefer to include the punct w/in the quote. Fwiw.

5222:

believes the poem - you've been using plural forms for most of this section. Is the singular "Poem" really appropriate?

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Yes, it's mentioned again toward the bottom of the article when Pound visited NY before his death to see it exhibited.

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In the next few days I hope to rework some of the translation sections slightly based on newer scholarship to clarify.

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I haven't checked the source, but if the sentence ends with the period, then I'd place the period inside. Will check.

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That has to be a crop—any print will have a prominent seal of the artist. Let me see if I can find a better image.

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in the spring of 1906. He registered as a PhD student": "M.A." with periods, but "PhD" without? (and later "BPhil")

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Yes, I'm afraid another whopper! Thanks so much Tim, can't tell you how I appreciate people taking time to review.

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I didn't write it, but doesn't the "but" function as a coordinating conjunction? Without it, there'd be a run-on.

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Written in 1913 and revised 1918 - trying to track down a source I can view, and is for the moment commented out.

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She was from a wealthy Youngstown Ohio family and earned money in her own right. If anything else, the opposite.

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article. They were estranged and she died in England. Don't know where she was buried though. Will have to find.

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Thanks, helpful remarks. Regarding the redlinks - there would be many! Curly Turkey picked up on a few as well.

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No, it's not. Nice link though! Explains the title! I'll comment below about the paucity of daughter articles.

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Book News Monthly - do you think this is worth a redlink? Search gives six occurrences on the English Knowledge

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he was actually standing outside the palace on 31 May 1906 during the attempted assassination by anarchists of

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I've tried to get to this NYT article but it wants a subscription. Sorry. We can trim, if you think necessary.

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Emphasis in original? Also, are those single quotes supposed to be single quotes, or italics? (just checking)

2063:"and by October 1908 he had caught": "he" is Pound, I presume, but could be parsed as the bookseller or Yeats 800:"] and ]": "Chinese" links to "Chinese poetry", but "Japanese poetry" link to "tanka"? I think that's a bit 5373: 5329: 5290: 5259: 5234: 5206: 5162: 5136: 5091: 5061: 5025: 4981: 4953: 4928: 4903: 4873: 4848: 4823: 4798: 4773: 4746: 4649: 4631: 4567: 4509: 4499: 4457: 4428: 4383: 4351: 4322: 4291: 4260: 4235: 4190: 4154: 4108: 4066: 4033: 4008: 3979: 3950: 3917: 3884: 3858: 3828: 3803: 3707: 3676: 3599: 3569: 3544:

readers from repeating the caption apparently (when I last checked; things may have changed, I don't know).

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Made preliminary pass to weed these out – still needs a bit more, but thanks for mentioning. That's useful.

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work, it seemed interesting to add. I think if it's tantalizing here, better to move out and expand in ""

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Have sprinkled credentials throughout. May have missed some, but will pick them up on subsequent passes.

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going on in his autobiography about how great Shakespeare was. Not an approriate source to quote, but

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decided not to answer the ping, and I'd posted but got caught in an edit conflict the other night that

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but haven't yet noted, and others still, I'm thinking about or need more input about. Thanks again!

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Yes, I believe it's correct to say it was at that period, but maybe SV or Ceoil can chime in here.

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for a movement to be "ideas about language". In other words, the sentence isn't reader-friendly.

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That looks very like a free image, especially if it is generally agreed to date to before 1923. —

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I may or may not come back to do a fuller review (too busy this week), but I noticed some things:

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A Lume Spento - I think this may be worth a redlink. Surprised we don't have an article on it yet

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I've removed "meaningless" but want to get back into the sources for this so as to get it right.

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six-by-six-foot - I think, technically, we're supposed to provide a metric conversion as well (

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It may be "true", but it will certainly leave a lot of readers' heads scratching as to what it

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a letter to the U.S. attorney general - which was... who at the time? Perhaps a piped link?

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volume is in Alexander's view the most attractive volume of Pound's work. - volume … volume

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Yes, you're right. It's not an appositive so I've reverted. Let's leave it for the moment.

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Yes, and because it was cold, and parochial etc etc. Can spin it out a bit if unnecessary.

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No, rather than strict translations he essentially re-wrote. The translations need work.

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is finished, which I hope not because some good points have been uncovered <hint: -->

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Thanks for these Curly Turkey – some good points here. Will be working through slowly.

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Ceoil trimmed out. Might take another go to trim down more. Still thinking about this.

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Changed to "Controversial friendships and release" for now. Still thinking about this.

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If it was published (i.e. not just a personal photograph), as a postcard even, I think

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Unfortunately I can't view Arrowsmith's book, which I suspect would go more in-depth.

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but don't know much about ships and haven't a clue if this is right. The dates fit.

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Thanks for pointing that out - I did miss the message there. The rest works for me!

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In the second sentence the period "logically" belongs to the encompassing sentence.

980:" "very unsafe for children." ": the period should be outside the quote in this case 271:

requires Pound's obnoxious use of ALLCAPS to be emphasized some other way (italics?)

4999: 4730:- Is this really worth linking? I mean, the article is on Mary's husband, not Mary… 3846:(assuming I didn't misread that)? Doesn't seem to be a very common term on Google. 3329:

I've gone through a number of sources and have made a small tweak to the wording.

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How did you search for that image, by the way? If it was based on a description,

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Yes, needs to be made consistent. Something will be fixed, either B.Phil, or MA.

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When we're all editing at the same time we can discuss how to deal with this. Or

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end of the third and fourth paragraphs should be redundant, and thus unnecessary.

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at the end of the work-week, but at the moment want to keep with the main page.

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By the way, I've just noticed that I fixed everyone's dashes with my last edit!

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Decided to follow your suggestion. Might add a bit more to it to spin it out.

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as a red link. She was a scholar in her own right and deserves her own page.

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Did a "find" on Radio Rome and came up empty? Anyway, should be Rome Radio.

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the Florence Ridpath school from 1894. - location? (to keep it standardized)

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described it as an apparation, apparently. It's not one we have on Commons.

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sentence. Whether the original sentence was closed at that point or not is

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Not totally - he really wanted the war to end. Anyway yes, he was serious.

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This is going to be over a period of several days. Hope you don't mind. —

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Yes, probably. Will check for sources because would want to turn it blue.

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There were two dissenting voices, Katherine Garrison Chapin, the wife of

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A useful stub. I'll let you focus on the main page and try to expand the

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Some are needed to cite the quotes. I'll sort out when the lead settles.

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works on Pound? "Further reading" isn't meant to be an exhaustive list.

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university, and made some pithy comment in passing in an interview in

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Slight tweak, but probably another candidate for the trimming shears.

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I tried but came up with a very strange result because of the 6 x 6.

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According to my dictionary if an adjective should be "excommunicate"

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between the two (although I wouldn't cite that source on Knowledge).

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This will have to made consistent throughout - thanks for noticing.

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to see whether Arrowsmith specifies. If so, I'll narrow down again.

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Very nice, tantalizing the reader. Will have to get there later. —

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Title of the class but later became an a book. Will work on this.

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that is being quoted, and it is not the original sentence but the

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Serial comma or no? I see both in the third paragraph of the lede

2516:, but I find that hard to believe. Is there a hidden signature? 5179: 3472: 1945:"the Philadelphia artist William Brooke Smith": worth a redlink? 1477: 1276:

Still a few things to be sorted on the lead; haven't forgotten!

594:"User-friendly editions" seems like an odd way to refer to books 5104:

Agree that it's necessary. I was actually thinking of links. —

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Being obnoxious. Could be a candidate for the trimming shears.

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According to Witmeyer a modern style is evident as early as

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I must have clicked on the script by mistake. Apologies! :)

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No, refs got messed up in that section. Will get it sorted.

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sent Yeats a copy of ''A Lume Spento'',

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Might do. Not been changed since 2010, but one never knows.

2195:, then being built, to change its design": intriguing—why? 1314:

I'll have to try to pin this down, otherwise will remove.

4688:. There is a Find-A-Grave entry that is quite enticing, 2418:

Yes, thanks for the suggestion. I found it on g-images,

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In the second case, quoting the original punctuation is

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The article desperately needs an infobox.</troll: -->

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Sorry I'm going on about it. I've been working on the

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around that to keep busybodies from "fixing" it, then.

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Or not. Anyways, we now have a start-class article on

471:"Controversial friendships, release": release from …? 368:

would apply if this was published outside the US, and

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Found more elsewhere and spun out the section a bit.

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Sometimes the article uses "US", and sometimes "U.S."

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It looks like a bit got lost – will have to search.

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Broadened the link for now, but would like to watch

2166:"Around the same time he moved": Pound, or Chester? 1356:"as an assayer at the Philadelphia Mint": I think " 478:"Insane asylum"? Thinking about what to put here … 516:"Scholarship": I'd assumed this meant scholarship 2927:"It also includes translation of the 8th-century 2292:and was going through a waka stage. Will rework. 1332:Tytell says "Lion" so I took guess and linked to 1130:be outside the quotes in this case (as it must), 4941:six-by-six-foot - again, metric may be necessary 3040:I can't find this anymore - think it got fixed. 4760:his son (as in the article on Omar) would help. 4538:for the moment. Here's the list of red links: 3055:"Alexander writes that": who? Why do we care? 3008:in 1919": this seems unnecessarily tantalizing 2697:movement": was Imagism "ideas about language"? 1360:" is unfamilar enough a word to warrant a link 1168:to weigh in. He knows this stuff fairly well. 1103:The Turkey stated, "Pound's the shit, y'know?" 4171:was a rehearsal for the negative response to 4121:I am absolutely dismayed at the treatment of 4054:" work better than the "during" construction? 2773:Fixed the pronoun - thinking about the rest. 1142:the quote. It's not the original sentence's 79: 8: 3594:I think that's the least of our worries. :) 1108:The Turkey stated that Pound was "the shit". 453:Yes, it has an article now, so I've linked. 159:This peer review discussion has been closed. 1870:'s death": should that be "excommunicated"? 223:(I think somebody missed the "troll" tags) 4310:; that's certainly not a poetry collection 86: 72: 41: 2216:No, I think it should be kept, though it 1992:As soon as it was published. Sorted now. 1796:": is the page count somehow significant? 1069:the quotes, and thus, also, the period). 926:20s being a quieter decade than others. 3407:"Amygism" ": why? What does this mean? 2831:Would need a source for that. Looking. 44: 5131:Dunno, form = fugue. Anyway, tweaked. 4598:I've done a fast-and-dirty article on 2693:"ideas about language that became the 1136:The Turkey stated, "Pound's the shit." 4368:an interjection! (no action required) 3004:"was a rehearsal for the response to 2791:" "I got out of a train at, I think, 7: 4969:- I think the link comes a bit late. 4666:article (later, after PR is over) — 3754:seems to be against this. How about 2870:"The collection includes five poems 1118:wrong. The period punctuations the 3781:Library of Congress - link the LOC? 2288:I probably added this when I wrote 3992:At Hamilton with Shephard he read 1303:in 1632": is there a link for the 24: 2962:Have tweaked this section a bit. 1307:? 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