251:. As this is a re-nomination, here's my re-opposition to the proposal. Are there really more benefits of deleting these instead of keeping them? If one day there's gonna be an article named "the fish portal", then convert the redirect to article. I'm fine with that. But meanwhile, why deleting useful redirects? From my experience, they are extremely useful. Back then before there were redirects to the fish portal, I was watching my boyfriend trying to get to the fish portal, and he didn't have any clue how to do it. He didn't even know that all portals are in a different namespace. He kept typing "fish portal" and "portal fish" until I told him it's "portal:fish". And that was exactly why I put these redirects. Just because we are more experienced editors, it doesn't mean we can ignore other people. It's not unlikely that someday there will be some newbies somewhere trying to get to
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444:. The people who don't know how to find portals are usually the ones who don't even know they are called portals, so I consider these unlikely search terms. On top of that, there's an "all portals" link on the main page for those who wish to get a clue about portal naming conventions. Easily accessible and not hard to find. -
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