431:(and briefly vandalized). The inbound links are all user Talk pages and fall into two clear categories - the references on the anon pages are vandalism warnings about abuses to the "huggle" page itself (before the AfD deletion) and the logged-in user page uses are all references to the "WP:Huggle" tool (both before and after the AfD. I see no reason to overturn the AfD decision and defer to that judgment that the term is a non-notable neologism. You could argue for a soft-redirect to
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Mexican title. The anon appears to have executed the move via cut-and-paste rather than through the move button. The redirect now preserves the only record to the attribution history of the original content which went on to become the Mexican list. At least one of the other redirects was the result of a prior pagemove of the content by
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on the word does not seem to support the claim that this is a particularly common term. Excluding
Knowledge, Wiktionary and their clones and derivatives (like Urban Dictionary and Everything2), none of the hits on the first few pages refer to hugs. What evidence do you have that this is a common
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Isn't it a little bit vain to say that
Knowledge has co-opted the word "huggle"? Honestly, the only reason I know that Huggle is even a Knowledge tool is because of the comment tag on some user talk pages. IRC or not, more people know huggle as slang for hug. This redirect should stay to
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If it's a "common
Internet meme", why isn't it coming up when we search through electronic sources? IRC sessions are frequently logged and often show up even through simple tools like google searches. What evidence did you find that this really is common?
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as a way to discourage the recreation of the dictionary definition but looking at the inbound links, it appears that our readers/editors most use this link as a typo of "WP:Huggle" (forgetting the WP: prefix).
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