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487:- allowing redirects to other Wikia projects would take us down a very bad road. We allow soft redirects to Wiktionary to help people looking for dictionary definitions, but we don't need redirects like these; they could lead to off-wiki redirects being created for every fictional character who has a page on 509:
Obviously we wouldn't want those links to be permeant, but when we do move an article, people are going to be looking for where it went. We should at least have some way of directing those people back to their work, which in some cases, they worked very hard on. I've used temp soft redirects to other
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A little more time to help readers and editors find the content that was once there is no big deal, and helps us out in the long run. There's less hurt feelings, less attempts to re-create articles, and in some cases it stops retaliation vandalism. These links should never be a long term thing, but
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I had not realized that the "list of minor characters" was now a redirect to the "list of main characters". Was any content merged to the new target article? That is, do we have to keep it for GFDL compliance? I can't find anything that was merged I haven't verified every edit. If not, then I
75:, have no edit history at all, other than redirects. Anyway as we have not kept the content (minor characters article does not exist) I think there is no licencing issue. If I am wrong about Gekko Hayate and it was merged somewhere, within WP, please point it out to me and I'll fix that - 319:
we shouldn't be acting like they're a bad idea. We've basically deleted this content, and there's going to be a lot of people wanting to know where it is. Allowing some form of explanation on that for a short while does not seem to be an unreasonable accommodation for our readers. --
491:. That's clearly unhelpful, and frankly calls into question the very purpose of Knowledge: it's not to link to other wikis, but to contain content itself. For those reasons, these should be deleted (or retargeted if there is an appropriate page on Knowledge to redirect to). 71:, 'all' referring to the 10 that where actually nominated and discussed here (only one editor explicitly mentioned the whole set). Keeping for a month or two looks unneeded postponement as most of them are soft redirects for already a few months. All, but 457:
The decision to endorse redirects (hard or soft) outside of the MediaWiki family of projects really needs to be proposed and decided outside of the narrow confines of an individual RfD nomination. May I suggest that you write this up either as a
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wikis (and they're not just for Wikia, but any external wiki site) before, and it's greatly helped the situation. After a short while, the soft redirect is removed or deleted, and all is fine. --
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No, it shouldn't and if you continue to try to subvert my edits as part of your grudge war I'll report you to ANI. I'll ask that this be speedy closed as complete nonsense.
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That would be fixed by using an alternative soft-redirect template. There would be no greater confusion than one would find with a normal EL link. --
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to the internal redirects. Failing that, delete because we ought not to be redirecting outside of the MediaWiki family of projects.
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Since when? Redirects are there to aid the reader, and that's what we're doing. It makes sense to at least allow this as a
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We probably shouldn't redirect to something outside of Wikimedia; it may confuse someone to find a link to another site.
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These all appear to have older versions in history which redirected to existing Knowledge articles (mostly
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Redirects to a whole 'nother project. I believe that linking to another Wiki is generally not allowed.
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 31, 2008
413: 471: 439: 336: 299: 259: 177: 173: 164: 544: 195:), I'm nominating the first ten to establish consensus and not overwhelm RfD. Delete per 168: 80: 569: 572:, a typo for a mistaken Irish surname, but still more likely than (OBama). Thanks! -- 511: 449: 385: 320: 236: 606:
The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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from my spot-checks). Unless there is a reason not to that I don't see,
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wiki, a non Wikimedia project. There are many, many of these (a list is
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has only main characters, so I'm not sure a redirect would make sense.
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Knowledge:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 July 11#Akimichi clan
316: 8: 329:Keep for two more months, then reevaluate 466:proposal? I would be happy to help. 231:to another Wiki", right? Because it's 7: 313:Keep for one more month, then delete 380:measure, since it's likely to help 348:or retarget to the character list. 294:would not disagree with deletion. 28: 18:Knowledge:Redirects for discussion 280:. A redirect to the top article, 274:List of minor Naruto characters 248:List of minor Naruto characters 539:The result of the debate was 67:The result of the debate was 1: 88:Included in this nomination: 276:is now behind a redirect to 183:These are soft redirects to 235:to link to other wikis. -- 133:wikia:Naruto:Anko Mitarashi 85:02:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC) 622: 515:07:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC) 501:02:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC) 476:21:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC) 453:09:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC) 444:09:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC) 422:03:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC) 389:08:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC) 372:01:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC) 358:05:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC) 341:15:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC) 324:06:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC) 304:21:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC) 289:02:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC) 240:09:46, 4 August 2008 (UTC) 124:wikia:Naruto:Hizashi Hyuga 115:wikia:Naruto:Hizashi Hyuga 598:16:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC) 580:16:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC) 557:16:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC) 278:List of Naruto characters 270:List of Naruto characters 264:22:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC) 223:20:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC) 204:17:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC) 160:wikia:Naruto:Hayate Gekko 151:wikia:Naruto:Hayate Gekko 142:wikia:Naruto:Ibiki Morino 106:wikia:Naruto:Hiashi Hyuga 97:wikia:Naruto:Hiashi Hyuga 62:wikia:Naruto:Hiashi Hyuga 284:, might make sense. -- 543:. (non-admin closure) 464:Knowledge:Village Pump 460:Centralized discussion 384:in the long run. -- 178:wikia:Naruto:Nawaki 474: 368:Mizu onna sango15 302: 262: 233:certainly allowed 220: 169:wikia:Naruto:Yura 613: 578: 547: 470: 442: 433: 369: 298: 258: 218: 216: 215:Ten Pound Hammer 44: 33: 621: 620: 616: 615: 614: 612: 611: 610: 609: 577: 554: 545: 537: 526: 435: 431: 367: 214: 65: 51: 46: 45: 42: 37: 31: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 619: 617: 603: 602: 601: 600: 590:Cumulus Clouds 583: 582: 575: 550: 538: 536: 527: 520: 519: 518: 517: 504: 503: 482: 481: 480: 479: 478: 424: 393: 392: 391: 360: 343: 326: 310: 309: 308: 307: 306: 244: 243: 242: 219:and his otters 181: 180: 171: 162: 153: 144: 135: 129:Mitarashi Anko 126: 120:Hyuuga Hizashi 117: 108: 99: 66: 64: 55: 50: 47: 38: 30: 29: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 618: 608: 607: 599: 595: 591: 587: 586: 585: 584: 581: 571: 570:Barack O'Bama 567: 563: 560: 559: 558: 553: 548: 542: 535: 531: 528: 525: 524: 516: 513: 508: 507: 506: 505: 502: 498: 494: 490: 486: 483: 477: 473: 469: 465: 461: 456: 455: 454: 451: 447: 446: 445: 441: 438: 434: 428: 425: 423: 420: 419: 418: 415: 412: 405: 401: 397: 394: 390: 387: 383: 379: 375: 374: 373: 370: 364: 361: 359: 355: 351: 347: 344: 342: 338: 334: 330: 327: 325: 322: 317: 314: 311: 305: 301: 297: 292: 291: 290: 287: 283: 279: 275: 271: 267: 266: 265: 261: 257: 253: 249: 245: 241: 238: 234: 230: 226: 225: 224: 217: 211: 208: 207: 206: 205: 202: 198: 194: 190: 186: 179: 175: 172: 170: 166: 163: 161: 157: 156:Gekkou Hayate 154: 152: 148: 145: 143: 139: 136: 134: 130: 127: 125: 121: 118: 116: 112: 111:Hyuga Hizashi 109: 107: 103: 102:Hyuuga Hiashi 100: 98: 94: 91: 90: 89: 86: 82: 78: 74: 70: 63: 59: 56: 54: 48: 41: 36: 23: 19: 605: 604: 565: 561: 541:Speedy Close 540: 534:Barack Obama 530:Barack OBama 522: 521: 489:another wiki 488: 484: 426: 408: 407: 403: 395: 381: 377: 362: 350:70.51.11.219 345: 328: 312: 251: 228: 209: 182: 147:Gekko Hayate 138:Morino Ibiki 93:Hyuga Hiashi 87: 73:Gekko Hayate 68: 58:Hyuga Hiashi 52: 400:lot of them 229:redirecting 185:Narutopedia 432:Midorihana 227:You mean " 69:delete all 512:Ned Scott 450:Ned Scott 386:Ned Scott 378:temporary 321:Ned Scott 237:Ned Scott 546:Mastrchf 493:Terraxos 462:or as a 40:August 1 20:‎ | 468:Rossami 411:Snapper 333:Inetpup 296:Rossami 286:Phirazo 256:Rossami 201:Phirazo 49:July 31 35:July 30 566:Rename 562:Delete 485:Delete 472:(talk) 427:Delete 404:Naruto 396:Delete 363:Delete 346:Delete 300:(talk) 282:Naruto 268:Well, 260:(talk) 252:revert 210:Delete 189:Naruto 174:Nawaki 165:Yuura 77:Nabla 43:: --> 16:< 594:talk 574:Inet 497:talk 398:the 354:talk 337:talk 199:. -- 193:here 187:, a 81:talk 32:< 576::o3 564:or 437:みどり 221:• 22:Log 596:) 555:) 549:(/ 532:→ 499:) 440:はな 382:us 356:) 339:) 176:→ 167:→ 158:→ 149:→ 140:→ 131:→ 122:→ 113:→ 104:→ 95:→ 83:) 60:→ 592:( 552:c 495:( 417:o 414:T 409:~ 352:( 335:( 79:(

Index

Knowledge:Redirects for discussion
Log
July 30
August 1
Hyuga Hiashi
wikia:Naruto:Hiashi Hyuga
Gekko Hayate
Nabla
talk
02:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Hyuga Hiashi
wikia:Naruto:Hiashi Hyuga
Hyuuga Hiashi
wikia:Naruto:Hiashi Hyuga
Hyuga Hizashi
wikia:Naruto:Hizashi Hyuga
Hyuuga Hizashi
wikia:Naruto:Hizashi Hyuga
Mitarashi Anko
wikia:Naruto:Anko Mitarashi
Morino Ibiki
wikia:Naruto:Ibiki Morino
Gekko Hayate
wikia:Naruto:Hayate Gekko
Gekkou Hayate
wikia:Naruto:Hayate Gekko
Yuura
wikia:Naruto:Yura
Nawaki
wikia:Naruto:Nawaki

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