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1381:- a person looking for a fictional planet named Sphinx may not realise that it is part of an entity called the Honorverse. Since (as of the morning of 2 February 2009) there has been no actual planet, either discovered or identified, to be named Sphinx, this is not a harmful redirect. Should such a planet be so named or discovered, of course the redirect can be overwritten with the appropriate article. 629:
product, since I remember hearing it called that as far back as middle scohol (1987-1990), and when I finally tried Mountain Dew, I hated it. Some of these things seem to get across the country, like "I pledge allegiance to the flag. Michael Jackson is a fag," but the consensus that the redirect should be deleted seems to suggest otherwise. --
1484:, but there is no such article, just a disambiguation page. Don't forget that if somebody would look for "Planet Sphinx" the Knowledge (XXG) search engine would show him that there is not such page, but the first alternative it would provided would be "Sphinx (planet)" (you can check this yourself by searching for "Planet Medusa" e.g.) 628:
As the person who created the redirect, I added it to some article and created the redirect. I don't remember under what circumstances that I created it. I agree that it's POV, but at the time, in addition to simply finding it funny, I thought it might have had some notability is a nickname for the
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I checked the page history and found that it was created by a user who had worked extensively with articles on the Honorverse before. He didn't make a mistake thinking that 'Honor' is spelled 'Honer'. It was a slip of the finger of a user who had made numerous edits that day. So we needn't keep it,
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per WP:RfD#KEEP. While we shouldn't credit redirects from plausible typos ahead of time, one-letter miscues can be accounted for (as humans have a nasty habit of being imperfect) - and the resulting redirect makes Knowledge (XXG) a little more reader-friendly as a
262:- This is nothing more than a self-promotional sobriquet used by the subject of the target article. Target article does not mention this term. I think it is highly unlikely that anyone looking for Rush Limbaugh would look for him under this name. -- 1100:- this is a redirect to a soft redirect, in other words a double redirect. I currently see no other option to delete this as I don't see a viable alternative target here... and I am not sure that another soft redirect would be appropriate. 86:
Useless and confusing. Following the redirect goes to a list. This item appears wikilinked in that list (with no other mention whatsoever). Following the link goes to this redirect, which goes to the top of the list. Can you say
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You're making it sound that there is some exclusivity here - why not both? If you're looking for Mars - and not the Roman diety or the candy-making family - chances are that you'd be looking at either the non-disambiguated
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I find the argument "that the one-letter mistake exists represents that the typographical error is not 'implausible'" hard to agree with. Were accepted as a valid reason, we'd be keeping every one-letter-typo redirect.
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BTW, although Homer Simpson was not discussing Mountain Dew at the time, we know how much Homer hates Mountain Dew from the episode where he went to New York City and got a boot put on his car.Β ;) --
551:- It makes sense to me; I understand this to be a derogatory POV comment about Mountain Dew. Knowledge (XXG) doesn't benefit from maintaining a redirect that exists solely to disseminate POV. -- 39: 34: 61: 1144:, where a link to the category can be placed in the "See also" section of the article. Clearly either of these two options is better than either maintaining a double redirect ( 1460:. This is a reasonable alternate term for its intended target (like "Planet Earth" or "Planet Mongo") , and there's no real planet named Sphinx this could be confused with. 227:
This redirect is an extremely obscure synonym for the article name, and unlikely to ever be useful as a redirect. The article name is commonly known, the redirect is not.
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as until a real planet is called sphinx, at which point it would become a dab page, the redirect is completely logical for the search term. If this goes, then so should
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but not necessarily desirable as it replaces one cross namespace redirect with another one. I can think of two options that would work around a CNR problem: 1) Create a
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As a native English speaker, there is nothing illogical about the word order. Planet Sphinx is a very apt expression describing the subject being searched for.
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requiring a capital first letter. Both "XXXX (planet)" and "Planet XXXX" work as some people will look for the former and some for the latter.
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in that you've read the appropriate section before. Please reciprocate that assumption. Thanks). Note that my post on this nomination was a
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and copy the list of articles in the category onto it (plus a little prose to put it into context and some referencing), or 2) retarget to
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The point is that even if one should keep "Sphinx (planet)", NOBODY will ever search "Planet Sphinx". That's an illogical wordorder.
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so this redirect is not in use, and nobody ever searches first for "Planet" and then for its name so nobody will ever use it.
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as someone researching the planet Sphinx might not be aware that it is in the Honorverse. This redirect is not doing any harm
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Typo. Should be Verge (Honorverse) with an "o". That redirect has been created and this old typo is now not in use any more.
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Malformed nomination fixed and added here after DumbBOT malfunctioned in adding log pages. Original nomination can be seen
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want to insult you. Just that the idea of keeping a real typo makes me laugh by its absurdity. Please do not be offended.
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Well, starting a reply with a bold "ridiculous" is not a good way to avoid offense (in fact it can be argued that it
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as nom has effectively withdrawn the nomination and no one else advocated deletion or retargeting (non admin close)
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lists as a category for speedy deletion. Whether this redirect merits deletion itself is still an open matter.
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as it is a redirect with alternate capitalisation. The issues presented her by nom are not pertinent to RfD.
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the fact that the one-letter mistake exists represents that the typographical error is not "implausible" as
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 1, 2009
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there is an actual planet Sphinx, which, the last time I checked, has not been named or discovered.
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as foolishness. Judging from a brief Google search, apparently this term came from Homer Simpson on
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for what should be very obvious reasons. How many more "Delete"s do we need to make a good enough
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Sometime in the future, somebody may actually create such an article as the lead article for a
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so this redirect is not in use, and since it is the less obvious redirect compared to
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per AfD and remove the link in the target. The latter will break the "infinite loop."
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I would have a hard time seeing the encyclopedic value of such a list article (per
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Keeping a typo is ridiculous. Your argument is the same. No disrespect intended.
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Incorrect cross-namespace redirect from nonexistent namespace abbreviation. β€’β€’β€’
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Should be deleted as it doesn't seem to be useful or to make any sense.
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Inappropriate CNR to a user template, does not link to content.
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as it is clearly a case of 'redirects from implausible typos'.
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there are both answers.wikia.com(Wikianswers, a new website,
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because it is part of the planet's name but because of
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Yes, I have read all of these before. And I really do
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as while it may be less obvious, it is still correct.
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296:Retargeted 49:February 1 40:February 2 35:January 31 1774:Debresser 1756:PaulJones 1672:Debresser 1617:Debresser 1577:Debresser 1561:Aervanath 1486:Debresser 1443:PaulJones 1426:Debresser 1408:PaulJones 1365:Debresser 1347:Debresser 1289:Debresser 1253:PaulJones 1214:Debresser 1142:MediaWiki 1124:Snigbrook 1072:Aervanath 933:Aervanath 848:Aervanath 763:Aervanath 574:this? -- 522:Aervanath 216:Aervanath 120:talk page 75:Aervanath 1720:Paul_012 1650:WP:CHILL 1339:deletion 1202:deletion 1134:possible 1115:Redirect 1008:Dabomb87 989:Dabomb87 746:User PKK 721:snowball 572:snowball 450:Liangent 362:Redirect 20:‎ | 1697:result. 1646:comment 1591:Comment 1517:WP:NAME 1087:MBisanz 967:WP:LIST 948:MBisanz 891:Delete. 863:MBisanz 806:Delete. 778:MBisanz 685:WP:SNOW 626:Neutral 348:Richard 1640:(I am 1595:WP:CSD 1327:B.Wind 1232:unless 1190:B.Wind 1098:Delete 1068:delete 1021:Delete 1004:Delete 959:Delete 929:delete 874:Delete 844:delete 759:delete 709:(talk) 689:B.Wind 666:Delete 603:Delete 553:Orlady 518:delete 370:JuJube 304:B.Wind 264:Orlady 260:Delete 243:Delete 212:delete 321:: --> 320:: --> 319:: --> 43:: --> 16:< 1778:talk 1769:typo 1760:talk 1752:keep 1742:talk 1732:Keep 1703:talk 1694:Keep 1676:talk 1658:talk 1621:talk 1603:talk 1581:talk 1565:talk 1557:keep 1525:talk 1501:Mars 1490:talk 1468:talk 1458:Keep 1447:talk 1430:talk 1412:talk 1406:etc 1396:keep 1387:talk 1379:Keep 1369:talk 1351:talk 1331:talk 1323:keep 1293:talk 1276:talk 1266:Keep 1257:talk 1249:keep 1240:talk 1228:Keep 1218:talk 1194:talk 1186:kept 1154:talk 1106:talk 1076:talk 1012:talk 993:talk 975:talk 937:talk 899:talk 882:talk 852:talk 814:talk 797:talk 767:talk 729:talk 693:talk 653:talk 635:talk 615:talk 579:Thin 557:talk 539:talk 535:CF84 526:talk 488:talk 480:Keep 454:talk 437:See 394:talk 374:talk 342:here 331:talk 308:talk 268:talk 251:talk 233:talk 220:talk 181:talk 171:Keep 162:talk 130:Thin 96:Thin 79:talk 71:keep 32:< 1668:not 1636:or 1513:not 1117:to 1041:. 584:boy 364:to 298:to 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion
Log
January 31
February 2
Nick Burns, Your Company's Computer Guy
Recurring Saturday Night Live characters and sketches
Aervanath
talk
12:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
infinite loop
Thin
boy
00
23:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
afd
Thin
boy
00
23:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
147.70.242.54
talk
15:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Gavia immer
talk
17:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
America's Anchorman
Rush Limbaugh
Aervanath
talk
12:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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