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205:"Sota Higurashi" as a redirect - The previous consensus that was referred to in the talk discussion said that Sota should have (as stated by Collectonian) a "Brief mention in Kagome's section and perhaps InuYasha's section is all that is necessary." - So what should be done is simply mention him once in Kagome's section and keep the redirect, but either have it point to Kagome's section or to no particular section at all. Since he is a recurring character some people are likely to look for the character, so by keeping the redirect they are forced to look in the character section. 223:
A mention is unneeded in Kagome's section, nor InuYasha's. He was mentioned there once, but it was removed as part of the clean up of the individual sections to bring the list closer to the quality desirable for future FLC. This includes removing excessive in-universe and plot information. Sota has
580:, preferably the former. This was the natural evolution of the word, and if it saves one annoying piped link somewhere, it's worth it. If Saturn's Day could be wikilinked from the Saturn article, it'd be a nice addition to anyone reading it to be able to pick up on where the concept came from. ~ 353:
He is a recurring character in the series, and plays a major roll in at least 1 episode of the anime (episode 90 has his name in the episode title). I think he has a sufficiently large roll in the series that a redirect is appropriate. I personally think he is a more promenent character than a
253:)? What does that book say about Sota? If the book has substantial content or discussion about the character, or lists him in the same category as other characters who are currently listed in the InuYasha character page, then the series creator would see him as a relatively important character. 414:
per the above. It is simply a misleading redirect, if the information on the subject isn't there, then redirecting a user who searches for the term to there is not helpful in the slightest. It will only serve as to confuse users until the subject is actually mentioned in the redirect target.
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would alert an admin that you'd like to revert your previous move; the redirect that you created the first time has trivial history, and it seems that the move would not be controversial. Cut'n'paste is not needed - the history stays with the actual article. Tag it and see...
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Though I think that Sota should probably have at least a small mention on the character list page, as he does appear in quite a few episodes of the anime series, there is no point in having this redirect while there is no actual information about him there.
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I agree that this would not be knowingly used as a search term for Saturn, but it is a plausible search term from someone who heard the phrase and did not make the connection. ("Weak" because it only gets a handful of hits monthly and the other six
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and the discussion was announced in multiple places. That few people participated does not indicate a lack of consensus or even that it is my own opinion. It was done nearly a year ago, with no objections raised since then on an active talk page.--
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If you're saying that the longer name is easier to remember, one would expect people to have used it in all the time that it has been around (or to have created more similar redirects with other more intuitive names). Neither one has
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as a good way to format numbers, so finding should not be a problem. Finally, all other formatting templates seem to have short names (probably because they're quicker to type), so I doubt people expect a template with such a long
121:, per consensus during work on the list, it was agreed that he was too minor for a section, or even mention in the list as he has no significance to the story at all. The redirect, therefore, is unnecessary anymore. -- 102:
The subject of the redirect (Sota Higurashi) is such an extremely minor character that he is not even mentioned in the article this redirect points to, and attempts to add him have been reverted by consensus.
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If you're saying that this redirect makes the template easier to find, I would say that having more templates makes all templates harder to find, because there are more to go through. Also, the MoS mentions
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Comment from nom: if this should redirect to Planetary hours, and there should be a set of them, I'll get the rest made up and withdraw this nom. It was redirecting it to Saturday that was ludicrous. --
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Whether the character is actually mentioned in the article is irrelevant. If the character is part of the series, then the redirect is valid and not problematic or harmful to Knowledge.
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per Josh. Goodraise's reasoning is not sound, as such redirects are likely to confuse users (this has been discussed and gained consensus at RfD multiple times recently). If/when
150:. It seems that previous consensus has been largely based on the opinion of Collectonian, and I'd prefer to hear from more people who are knowledgeable about the topic. — 171:
Following suit, I've also posted a note to the Anime/manga project, who are the people most knowledgeable about the topic. The character was removed per consensus
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I've just added requests for input to the talk pages of four editors who have previously been involved in discussions regarding the notability of
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Multiple redirects for a single template are quite common, and this templates name is more intuitive than "val". I've no problem with this. --
967:. Before anybody starts using it on articles, it should be deleted because having two names for the same template is only confusing.     — 91: 889: 846: 495: 596: 237: 189: 134: 17: 290: 272: 1071: 1115: 774: 644: 402: 158: 1119: 1047: 1004: 980: 931: 897: 873: 854: 821: 801: 788: 758: 736: 710: 697: 648: 617: 603: 565: 540: 515: 478: 424: 406: 363: 345: 328: 297: 262: 241: 214: 193: 162: 138: 112: 76: 764: 613: 511: 391: 108: 87: 725:
Please delete this page so we can move the article "2009 Francophone Games" without losing history and data. thanks
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I think it's redundant because it's been around for quite a while and nobody seems to have ever used it.     —
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Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 28, 2009
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no significant role in the series, and has no major impact on the story. He is just there. --
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Move cannot be done since both pages exist, copying and pasting would lead to loss of data
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Very unlikely redirect - who would search for "Day of Saturn" if they wanted "Saturday"?
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The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
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couple of the characters with whole sections in the article (e.g. Jinenji, An-Un).
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I don't know about the character guide, but he's not mentioned anywhere in the
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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Does Rumiko Takahashi list Sota or discuss the character in
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Talk:List of InuYasha characters/Archive 1#Sota Higurashi
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This is not used in anything but examples and tests for
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Index

Knowledge:Redirects for discussion
Log
September 27
September 29
Killiondude
talk
07:30, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Sota Higurashi
List of InuYasha characters
links to redirect
stats
Elen of the Roads
talk
23:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Collectonian
talk
contribs
05:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Sota Higurashi
Zach425
contribs
08:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Talk:List of InuYasha characters/Archive 1#Sota Higurashi
Collectonian
talk
contribs
12:56, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
WhisperToMe
talk
15:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

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