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633:. Even if it didn't explicitly say "Insomnia 2005" in big letters, remixes and new versions of old (pop, rap, r&b, etc) songs that would otherwise have the same title as the prior work are frequently suffixed with the year, meaning that searching for the 2005 mix of "Insomnia" under the title "Insomnia 2005" is very logical. The point of redirects is to help people find the articles they are looking for, and as they are so 669:"Faithless" is the name of the band, not the name of the song, so it's presence on the cover is not really relevant. Web search engines work off our redirects just like our internal search does - they can only work with what we give them. Why should we expend the effort of deleting the redirect to make navigation harder for users of internal and external search utilities? 747:
because there is at most one article in the encyclopedia to which it refers, and it is therefore not ambiguous. Whether it should exist as a redirect to that one article, or to nothing at all, is another matter. However, since there does not seem to be anything more relevant that a search could bring
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Idiotism is the often found human particularity involving one in process of doing something without thinking about that first. Such redirects encourage exactly this manner of operation. If we make them stay, we'll end up with each and every combination of words being a redirect to some article where
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back in 2009 (I'll alert him to this discussion). In many cases where a redirect nominated here was created from an article without apparent discussion there is merit in restoring the article in favour of an AfD or merge discussion; however in this case the article would stand no chance of surviving
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I'm not entirely sure I understand what you are saying, but here we are discussing this specific redirect (which I believe will be a very useful redirect once retargeted). If you think there are a "myriad of redirects that are absolutely not necessary" then please nominate them for deletion (it's
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What about this is "idiotism"? Also remember that there are many ways in which people search and browse Knowledge (XXG), the internal search engine is far from the universal method - not that the target is likely to be the most obvious result as it is neither an article nor section title. The
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Redirect is a great mechanism to correct popular misspelling (capitalisation issues included), to drive people from alternative names of the event to its most widely accepted name or to the more general article. Using it to route nonsense queries is just plain wrong IMHO. —
655:" right above "Insomnia 2005"? I understand Your point, but I do sincerely believe that routing user to the song's page is a proper task for web search engines, for Knowledge (XXG)'s own search engine and for disambiguation pages, but not for the redirect pages. — 333:. This was originally an unsourced, poorly spelled ("They will blend in with deaead leaves", "villagers wear boots ... to repeal attacks"), junior school essay. It was redirected as a "content fork" (presumably based on the title) by 140:
This seems to be the name of a TV movie made in 1991. Other than it may have been aired in 1991, there is no reason for a redirect to point to an unsourced list of films created in 1991. The redirect is unhelpful, and violate
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more difficult for users. What I care more is a myriad of redirects that are absolutely not necessary. I would prefer to see some less notable content in place of those zero-worth pseudo-useful articles. —
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we normally only delete them if they are misleading, harmful or otherwise detrimental to the encyclopaedia (such as discouraging the creation of an article we want) - none of those apply here.
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before you do though). I definitely don't understand what you mean by "zero-worth pseudo-useful articles" - redirects are not articles and serve a different purpose.
575:. Though Knowledge (XXG) tries to route people to what they are looking for, it should not encourage idiotism. The search exists for this type of queries. — 119: 21: 311:. Bizarre redirect to a disambiguation page, which lists different species that happen to share the name (not "adaptations") and a football team. 17: 167:
was deleted as an expired prod. What happened was that a bot found this dead-end redirect and made a goodwill attempt to find a solution.
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Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 5, 2011
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redirect will also make it less likely for someone to, in good faith, create a duplicate article.
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Good point, I hadn't noticed that. I'll tag it for speedy pointing here for the explanation.
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Bridgeplayer just beat me to the punch! But thanks, I agree with the tagging as G6.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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an AfD or prod so there is no point in doing that on this occasion.
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as G6. This should have been deleted as a G8 at the same time that
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Either my eyes are failing or there is a bigger and bolder label "
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Let me bring this discussion back to the nomination at issue.
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Which is fine, but this isn't a nonsense query - see
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I am not sure why I did not give this a 18:Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion 521:where this release gets good coverage. 7: 743:clearly should not be directed to 519:Insomnia (Faithless song)#2005 mix 443:The result of the discussion was 82:The result of the discussion was 28: 263:The result of the discussion was 1: 763:22:42, 13 November 2011 (UTC) 510:19:28, 5 November 2011 (UTC) 457:20:33, 16 November 2011 (UTC) 326:19:19, 5 November 2011 (UTC) 275:13:45, 13 November 2011 (UTC) 723:01:40, 9 November 2011 (UTC) 700:22:16, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 679:22:09, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 665:19:45, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 647:19:31, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 625:18:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 602:17:51, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 585:15:43, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 568:01:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC) 550:22:37, 5 November 2011 (UTC) 531:21:07, 5 November 2011 (UTC) 398:15:41, 8 November 2011 (UTC) 381:09:21, 6 November 2011 (UTC) 348:01:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC) 282:Adaptations of a horned frog 239:Adaptations of a horned frog 216:22:35, 5 November 2011 (UTC) 198:22:34, 5 November 2011 (UTC) 177:22:29, 5 November 2011 (UTC) 155:21:47, 5 November 2011 (UTC) 104:00:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC) 790: 745:Insomnia (disambiguation) 611:most of the words belong. 470:Insomnia (disambiguation) 770:Please do not modify it. 430:Please do not modify it. 408:Please do not modify it. 250:Please do not modify it. 228:Please do not modify it. 69:Please do not modify it. 111:Earth Angel (TV movie) 58:Earth Angel (TV movie) 388:as per nomination. — 365:tag when I saw it. — 145:3 & 4, I think. 692:Dmitrij D. 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Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion
Log
November 4
November 6
deletion review
WP:CSD G6
Malik Shabazz
Bridgeplayer
talk
00:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Earth Angel (TV movie)
1991 in film
links to redirect
history
stats
WP:R#DELETE
Novaseminary
talk
21:47, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Earth Angel (film)
Bridgeplayer
talk
22:29, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Novaseminary
talk
22:34, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Novaseminary
talk
22:35, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
deletion review

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