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701:. Template redirects are an extreme nuisance for bots and scripts. While some template redirects are arguably necessary (former names and common alternative names, for instance), any redirects that are obscure and/or unused should just be deleted. Anyone who objects to this line of reasoning should try writing a decent bot or script! — 560:(a template with a title beginning with the standard prefix "Template:R" that categorises redirects), yet each has a title that neither begins with "Template:R" nor the expanded form, "Template:Redirect". These are the only such redirects as far as I have been able to find; their existence is completely nonstandard among 604:), who apparently did not have much experience with redirect templates at the time he created these redirects. Not a single redirect currently uses or links to any of these Rcat templates. Because of the irregularity of these redirects' names, as well as their non-usage, they should be 745:– JPæst and This, that and the other give what should be—if not already—the official policy on naming redirect templates. Simplicity, consistency, and compatibility outweigh any purported convenience they might have. All redirect templates should be in the 670:
unless specific better targets for any of them can be found. I agree with the nominator that these aren't especially useful, but they're not implausible as alternative names either, and aside from the single misnamed one I can't see how they do any harm.
771:. Convenience to the editors who apply templates to pages (including those of us who still remember the old conventions before the "R from..." pattern became popular) outweighs the burden to a few bot and script writers. Tag them all with one of the 564:, and all of the many other redirects to redirect templates begin with either "Template:R" or "Template:Redirect", as they should. This is the standard naming scheme of such redirects, and it specifies that they can be used as 966:
I can just about remember what happened here. It was suspected that a by-election was on the way, so the redirect was set up as a just in case. Clearly there's no by-election, so this could be deleted/removed without an issue
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to place redirects into categories. Since the redirects listed above are missing this specification in their titles, their format is completely inconsistent. In addition to this improper format, the
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of the redirects to Rcat templates use the prefix correctly, and the above templates are some of the only few that do not. Hopefully, this will help to put the situation into scale. —
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follow the "Template:R"/"Template:Redirect" format: 16 of these are the irregular prefix-missing redirects listed above, some omit the format for merely technical reasons (
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those listed above), and the remaining ∼20 are mistakenly placed in the category and still being sorted out. In other words,
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 5, 2013.
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Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
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Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
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Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's
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listed above uses an uncommon misspelling of the word "capitalisation", and the
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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Rcats, consisting of redirect templates and their useable redirects. Only
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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects.
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Misleading: no by-election happened. Some potential for confusion with
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
596:. These redirects have all been created by the same editor, 1059: 1045: 933: 542: 514: 486: 458: 430: 402: 374: 346: 318: 290: 262: 234: 206: 178: 150: 122: 1094:. The redirect should therefore point to the DAB page 1146:
disambiguate by retargetting to disambiguation page
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Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion
Log
July 4
July 6
redirect templates
talk page
deletion review
BDD
talk
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Template:Alternative capitalization
Template:R from other capitalisation
links to redirect
history
stats
Template:Alternative language
Template:R from alternative language
links to redirect
history
stats
Template:Alternative name
Template:R from alternative name
links to redirect
history
stats
Template:Alternative punctuation
Template:R from modification
links to redirect
history
stats

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