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distinctions are made for obvious reasons. Now we're left with an RfD that arose from a weird merger that happened partly because the cross-wiki links don't match. I guess this is just me rambling and laughing, because as an RfD regular I'm now seeing us pick up the crumbs from the mess that arose from a massively controversial decision I disagreed with.
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either through different policies or through having simply copied the old arrangement from en.wiki and not changed it. (Note that the zh.wiki is blocked in mainland China which thus affects its userbase's systematic bias in this area.) The whole area of China article names took years to sort out properly and should not be undone without major discussion.
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with a neutral point of view. I know that Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlansds, Swaziland, Thailand, etc. are monarchies but I could not tell you without looking who the heir to any of these thrones is, so why should we expect a native of these countries to somehow know without looking who is heir to the British throne?
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to country-specific succession articles as described by AngusWOOF. The unanimous consensus is that the current target should be changed and there is a rough consensus that pointing to articles about succession is better than deletion. AngusWOOF's suggestion, of pointing the Australian and Canadian
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as a hard redirect. Maybe there's something I'm fundamentally misunderstanding (let me know if that's the case), but I don't really see the relevance of either the overall topic structure of this area, or the bizarre merge discussion happening on the redirect's talk page. All I see is a redirect with
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Is that true everywhere? Does everybody know that? Does everybody who knows that remember it all the time? Do they remember how to spell his name? Do they know and remember what title he has, and how to spell that? I don't think that the answer to all these questions is "yes", and so these redirects
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Fortunately we don't need to imagine, we can look at the page view statistics and see that they are getting a non-zero number of people viewing them. While I suspect that most Britons do know that Charles is next in line to the British throne, this is a global encyclopaedia and we must approach this
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here because the majority of the English-speaking world has a weird viewpoint that China = People's Republic of China regardless of the nuances. This caused en.wp articles' scopes to disconnect with other language Wikipedias, most notably, erm, the Chinese Knowledge (XXG) where the finest conceptual
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per nom, and as a vague title per the preceding nomination. The two Speedy close votes above make little sense to me. Every Knowledge (XXG) has a slightly different structure on its pages, and Wikidata should not be forcing every Knowledge (XXG) to have its pages strcutured in exactly the same way.
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China = People's Republic in the same way that Germany = Federal Republic, France = Fifth Republic and so forth. Ireland is a different case as the name is widely used for both the state and the island. By contrast the name "China" is almost never used to mean both China and Taiwan together outside
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per Thryduulf, though I don't think this would be any less valid if women were in the top few spots. That's a place where we'll consistently have the most accurate information at the time as to who's most likely to be the next king of the UK (etc.). I see no potential for harm here, and plenty of
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the creation of a redirect then immediately nominating it for merger makes no sense: there is nothing to merge, either in the content or history of the redirect, and so it simply cannot happen. It also makes no sense as a search term. As for 'a placeholder for wikidata', that Wikidata cannot cope
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imply it's intended as backdoor way to recreate the old "Chinese civilisation" article from the pre 2011 POVfork mess that had the current China article split between an article on the current state and another (at the name "China") on Chinese civilisation. Other Wikis still maintain this split,
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as those articles explain how Canada and Australia use the UK succession for prince, princesses, heir apparents and others who could be king or queen. Jumping straight to the UK or Charles would be a surprise for those who aren't familiar with how the monarchies work in Canada or Australia.
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No, the pre 2011 situation was the one driven by a clear POV pushed agenda, creating a confusing mess of articles that prioritised a minority agenda over ease of understanding. It's a pity so many other Wikis still have such a mess in place but that's no reason to reintroduce it here.
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The redirect can't be fixed. the redirected article is now called Feline urethrostomy. Perineal urethrostomy is a surgical procedure mostly done on people. This redirect will not give a reader information on this topic. Urethrostomy (human) is an article I am working on.
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is a concrete usage, so I'm leaning towards retargeting there. I'm looking at the Books results too, and they look to mostly deal with the northern parts of whatever "Syria" was at the time, rather than a specific "Northern Syria"—just "northern Syria", if you will.
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pages, and would strongly oppose moving Sinosphere to China, but I think this redirect is fine. When I think of a Chinese cultural region, I think the closest analogue to that is the Sinosphere. It is an awkward search term, so I'll stay at a weak keep. ----
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are used to link across namespaces, and I haven't seen an explanation why there should be an exception here. It has been adequately argued that the redirect is a plausible search term and that the current target is the best available article to redirect to.
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which gives people using these redirects exactly the content they are looking for. It seems likely that the next three generations of monarchs (at least) will all be kings so for the foreseeable future there is going to be no maintenance load on anybody.
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per Angus. I agree that specific redirects regarding Canada and Australia should point to their respective Monarchy articles. I've updated both articles to include an easy link to the current line of succession, should that be what someone is seeking. I
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makes sense here. This acts as a placeholder for the relevant Wikidata. China =/= People's Republic of China (despite where the Knowledge (XXG) pages lie). As for "prioritising a minority agenda over ease of understanding", I suggest people to look at
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I wouldn't favor such a hatnote. The Prince of Wales article says "the failure to be granted the title does not affect the rights to royal succession". As a matter of practice, we'll still have the Prince of Wales at the top of that section.
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with this is not our concern. The vast majority of WD items only have articles on a few wikipedia. Just because an item exists there, or articles exist on other wikipedias, does not mean we have to create a placeholder here.--
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Because the British royal family (or at least the Charles-Wills-Harry cluster right at the top of the line of succession, if not necessarily all the distant minor nobles at the bottom) is markedly more
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per above – a cursory google books search reveals mostly results that have nothing to do with the proposed new target (Rojava), and not that many that are related to the current target. –
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per Thryduulf. Redirects are cheap and certainly to many people it will occur earlier to search for "next king/queen" than for "line of succession". In any case, lose Prince Charles per
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if someone is willing to write an article; I will leave it to the discretion of others to determine whether "anti-liberalism," "anti-liberal," and "antiliberalism" are synonymous. --
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This seems an unlikely search term to me, but I am unwilling to dismiss the wikidata argument as too insignificant. Once kept though it should be a hard redirect as noted by Uanfala.
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the narrow issue of cross strait relations and structuring the articles in such an awkward way for years made Knowledge (XXG) ridiculous. Hence it was rightly fixed.
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per Thryduulf. No hatnote necessary in my opinion since there have been several Princes of Wales who have predeceased their parents and thus never become king.
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already know that the current heir to the throne is Prince Charles, who can thus be located by searching for "Prince Charles" instead of "Next king of...".
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to the specific articles per AngusWOOF, as these are precisely what a reader typing those phrases would be looking for. In terms of page views, only
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issues due to the closing templates, and relisting this discussion allows some of those issues to temporarily clear since relisting this allows
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as a result of the merge discussion, which appears to make several of the comments here invalid. Please discuss with regard to the new target.
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But I don't think that is what news media refer to when they reference this term, this redirect has, unsurprisingly, received a lot of hits
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refers to hasn't been published yet. When the day comes when the article is published, the fixes referenced by the nominator should happen.
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titles to the relevant articles about those two countries, has gained a lot of approval so I'm taking that as the best solution.
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which apparently is about the Island as a whole and not the country we know as Ireland. (Try doing a requested move on that). ;) --
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is moved into article space, this can be tidied up, but it can't stay in limbo forever and no good comes of deleting it.
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to delete. Hopefully it's no surprise that such a tepid discussion ends up without a consensus. This will default to
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receives a decent amount, but I would disagree with deleting the rest as they're very clearly useful. –
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per Steel1943, or retargeting to the new article on human urethrostomy, when that gets to mainspace. –
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 6, 2017.
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Could someone draft something here? I'm concerned about us making stuff up. Any region has a north
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There's no actual merger discussion taking place either on the redirect or on the main article.
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as this is the most sensible available target. I have to say en.wp got itself into a cluster
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can you elaborate if the weak keep is for a hard redirect, soft redirect, or others?--
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For the record, though I am involved in this discussion, I am relisting this because
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Relisting this for the simple fact that there are so many discussions displayed on
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in the article's title since an article for the human version of urethrostomy that
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position that is currently in position to be the next king. But unlike cases like
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per Notecardforfree. Northern Syria obviously long precedes the very recent and
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this is crystal ball gazing but with no useful benefits, now or in the future
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redirects readers there), but it could also refer to the northern portions of
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that the day this was relisted from wasn't even appearing there. If a closer
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per nom. Also, the redirect target "Sinosphere" is itself a redirect to
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along the lines of other Eubot expansions of Mandarin ü into ue.
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a plausible title that goes where it's supposed to go. –
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion
Log
January 5
January 7
talk page
deletion review
Soft redirects
Tavix
15:42, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
China (cultural region)
Sinosphere
East Asian cultural sphere
talk
links
history
stats
talkpage
Timrollpickering
01:15, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
CHAMPION
01:18, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Thryduulf
talk
03:26, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Timrollpickering
11:42, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Q29520
dab
(𒁳)
14:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

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