1003:, and for that reason alone I don't see why we even need to entertain the idea of a lower case version. Cf: If I incorrectly type "wales" into the Wiki searchbox, it is auto-corrected to "Wales" in the list that pops up, because "wales" does not exist as a redirect (and rightly so). For this same reason, I don't think "Annals of wales" should exist as a redirect. It should just get auto-corrected to Annals of Wales in exactly the same way.
1256:, there's nothing there that wasn't created as a direct consequence of the discussion we're having now, so I don't see why this redirect can't be deleted as it appears to serve no purpose, other than to over-ride the correct capitalised form in the searchbox list (the "slightly irritating" thing that alerted me to it in the first place). (Assuming this argument also applies to xanten, joseon dynasty & carnegie museum above).
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2073:. Implausible search term, no one is ever going to search for it. Peanuts does include romantic relationships, but that's not the main point of the strip. Charlie Brown's interest in the little red-haired girl, Sally's interest in Linus and Lucy's interest in Schroeder can be covered on the respective character pages as an aside.
201:(lower case) - when you type in "Annals of the c"... or even "Annals of the C..." in the Wiki searchbox, the lower case version automatically pops up in the list. It seems to be over-riding the capitalised version, which is not showing up at all. Therefore, I suggest the lower case version of the redirect needs to be deleted.
948:(lower case 'w') - when you type in "Annals of w"... or even "Annals of W..." in the Wiki searchbox, the lower case version automatically pops up in the list. It seems to be over-riding the capitalised version, which is not showing up at all. Therefore, I suggest the lower case version of the redirect needs to be deleted.
702:(lower case) - when you type in "Annals of x"... or even "Annals of X..." in the Wiki searchbox, the lower case version automatically pops up in the list. It seems to be over-riding the capitalised version, which is not showing up at all. Therefore, I suggest the lower case version of the redirect needs to be deleted.
443:(lower case) - when you type in "Annals of j"... or even "Annals of J..." in the Wiki searchbox, the lower case version automatically pops up in the list. It seems to be over-riding the capitalised version, which is not showing up at all. Therefore, I suggest the lower case version of the redirect needs to be deleted.
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I understand that now. The lower case 'w' in "Annals of wales" is not the opening letter of the redirect so my Wales/wales analogy was not equivalent. But I'm still concerned that this redirect is unnecessary. I notice that numerous other Annals articles have no such lower case redirect, e.g.
1942:- certainly a valid thing to search for, but we don't seem to have much information compiled in one place: the characters' romantic (and platonic) relationships are discussed mostly within the articles for each character. The main article is as good a place as any for readers to start.
1252:) purely to maintain links, and pages that link to this redirect should be updated to link directly to the correct form. Logically, this implies that the redirect can be removed once it's served its purpose and its temporary function is no longer required. According to the
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1153:: this is one of multiple discussions started by the same author for the same reason. I think they were all on the same day, but I might be wrong about that. It might make sense to lump them to avoid having the same (rather simple, technical) discussion repeatedly.
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I'm of two minds with this one. It points to the most recent event, which you'd think would be the most likely event readers would be searching for, and has hatnotes pointing to the other topics which match this query. On the other hand I don't know if it's
1688:. When our readers type in "Brussels bombing," they are likely to be looking for a specific incident, and it's going to be hard to find on a whole article on terrorist attacks in Belgium, many of which are not bombings and/or did not occur in Brussels.
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