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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 10, 2019.

Four-year college

Relisted, see Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#Four-year college

2-year college

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The result of the discussion was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 18:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

These articles should redirect to the same place. Mstrojny (talk) 20:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Junior college and community college are very nearly the same thing in the US, and generally 2-year colleges, but often very different elsewhere and not necessarily a 2-year college. One or the other still seems like the best target unless anyone comes up with something better. There is Community colleges in the United States - could that be what a majority of people are looking for when they type 2-year college? Lithopsian (talk) 22:13, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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Repost

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Reblogging and hatnote. There are clearly two relevant topics here, though one is an error whose plausibility can hinge on regional pronunciation. This will provide readers access to both topics. --BDD (talk) 17:14, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

WP:SURPRISE. When people search for "repost", they will be trying to find the term very commonly used in internet culture, not an obscure action in a sport. The word "repost" isn't even used in that article.  Nixinova  T  C  19:01, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't support a retarget to wiktionary. If there is no encyclopedia article then there's no article: a user can search wikt his/herself. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:13, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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HMS Partridge (G30)

Relisted, see Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 18#HMS Partridge (G30)

"White" redirects to Ethnic stereotype

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 22:30, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Due to lack of related content in the target article, these redirects seem like a bunch of WP:SURPRISEs with no good alternative targets. Steel1943 (talk) 22:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Seems like there's a vague sense leaning toward delete, but I'm not convinced there's consensus here, especially given the age of these.
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Little Bang

Relisted, see Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 21#Little Bang

Retail politics

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

The phrase "retail politics" (Wiktionary: "The political strategy of engaging with small groups of individuals in face-to-face interactions") is mentioned nowhere in the target, so someone who searches for this in search of a definition is left none the wiser. I can't find any particularly viable alternative targets. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:55, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

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Species in Inoceramus

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The result of the discussion was Keep ~ Amory (utc) 22:19, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
List of nominations
Species in Inoceramus (abritrary break)

Some of these, such as I. saskatchewanensis, are linked only from the target article, which contains no nontrivial information about any specific species, and others, such as I. walterdorfensis, are not mentioned at all. All should be deleted per WP:REDLINK. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 22:39, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Given the bulk nature of this, we could use some more discussion. Moreover, none of these redirects were tagged; I have now done so.
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  • These types are tough. Redlinks in taxonomic articles are normal, and that certainly points to delete. But {{R to subtopic}} could be appropriate for a species that's never going to have its own article. Without any specific (pardon the pun) knowledge of these, I could easily see that being the case for a bunch of species of fossil bivalves, which points to keep. Those without mention sure feel like a delete, but maybe they should be mentioned, and maybe that just means listing them. (How "selected" are the "Selected species"?) I suppose I'm leaning delete, cautiously. Pinging Plantdrew, whose input on taxonomic discussions I always value. --BDD (talk) 17:40, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Wow. This is quite an unusual case. The accepted wisdom among editors working on taxonomic articles is that fossil species are usually best covered in an article about the genus, not separate articles for each species. However, I'm having trouble finding that position documented anywhere; it certainly comes up on talk pages frequently, but WikiProject Dinosaurs seems to have the only explicit mention of it (WikiProject Palaeontology takes a weaker stance against species articles). However, for most genera known from fossils, it's unusual to have more than 2-3 known species (which could be readily compared and contrasted in an article on the genus). Bivalves fossilize exceptionally well, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that there are fossil bivalve genera with dozens of species, but that's certainly not the norm for fossil genera overall.
"Selected species" on Knowledge (XXG) never means very much "selecting" was being done. More typically it means "here's all the species listed in whatever sources I had at hand, but I'm not sure if those sources are comprehensive". Both WoRMS and FossilWorks include some species not listed in the article, as well as species listed not listed in the other database (WoRMS doesn't aim to be comprehensive for fossil species; FossilWorks aims for comprehensiveness, but isn't there in practice).
I think it's quite unlikely that articles will be created for each species, so I'm not sure the logic of REDLINK applies here. Some of these species may end up placed in other genera; I. walterdorfensis is now Cremnoceramus walterdorfensis according to WoRMS. Having these redirects poses a maintenance burden (an article on Cremnoceramus needs to be written before I. waltderdorensis can be pointed to the right place). I'm not inclined to take the time to check each redirect for current taxonomic placement (let alone writing any missing genus articles); I feel like these redirects are really more of a headache than they are worth. However, it does appear that many of these have incoming links. I'm going with weak keep due to incoming links. If they are kept, {{R from species to genus}} (which is currently a redirect to {{R from subtopic}}) would be an appropriate tag. 19:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plantdrew (talkcontribs)
  • Keep. I'm more of a lumper than a splitter, even with living organisms (see e.g. Floridobolus), and comprehensive context is key. There is no rule mandating every taxon MUST have an article, especially if the article says no more than "Inoceramus aequicostatus is a species of bivalve in the genus Inoceramus described by Voronetz in 1937" (lots of extant insect stubs consist of such pablum). That exact same information (species, genus, author and year of description) is present in the full scientific name, and placed in better context in the list at Inoceramus. I don't think it's worth deleting any redirects. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep. Regardless of article content these are useful for fleshing out categories for taxa by year and author of description. Abyssal (talk) 14:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge to genus - palaeontology project guidelines are clear about this. Prehistoric species articles should be covered at the genus level, and only split off if that article becomes too long, which is not the case here. Prehistoric species stubs should not be created in general. FunkMonk (talk) 19:40, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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Acute HIV Infection and Early Diseases Research Program

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The result of the discussion was delete with no prejudice against recreation if mentioned somewhere. -- Tavix 22:18, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

There does not seem to be any subject this WP:PRECISE in the target article, and I’m not finding one in other articles either. Steel1943 (talk) 06:32, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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MSNPC

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 19:55, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

This does not appear to be a useful or likely redirect. PeterTheFourth (talk) 12:08, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. I have just removed the only mention of it in the article and went to nominate it for deletion – what a coincidence it has just been nommed two hours ago. wumbolo ^^^ 14:32, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Don't really see a reason too, Know your meme classifies MSNPC as a separate topic related to the NPC meme, so I don't really see why we shouldn't follow the suit and the nom failed to explain it in my opinion. Openlydialectic (talk) 03:54, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Know Your Meme is user generated content. PeterTheFourth (talk) 21:41, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
So? Redirects are here for other people to quickly find the content they are looking for. It's not a factual statement. Openlydialectic (talk) 22:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Potentially useful for those unfamiliar with the meme and/or MSNBC. Џ 04:15, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
  • I can see an argument for keeping as a {{R to article without mention}} (useful search term, and usage is above noise level) and an argument for deleting (not mentioned in article, and difficult to source for a mention). A DuckDuckGo search showed no mention in usable sources, the KYM entry is only a submission thus it is unusable. Leaning delete as redirects to an article without a mention are generally discouraged. feminist (talk) 02:37, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Another possible option would be to retarget to MSNBC as a typo. feminist (talk) 02:37, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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  • Delete There aren't many cases where keeping a redirect without mention is a good idea, and this isn't one of them. If you know the meme, it could be a fun little easter egg, but otherwise, it's just going to mislead readers. --BDD (talk) 21:34, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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Contractor combatant

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 19:15, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

These phrases may have interpretations other than "mercenary". Keep, retarget to Private military company, or delete as vague? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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Security regulation

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 18:25, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

"Security regulation" is not mentioned at the target article and has uses outside the subject of mercenaries. I suggest delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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French-speakers outside of Quebec

Relisted, see Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#French-speakers outside of Quebec

RS:OPINION

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:49, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

A cross-namespace redirect which has only been used four times since its creation (indicating that it's not an overwhelmingly common search term to merit its existence). feminist (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Redirects are cheap. Is there a reason why you'd what to break those three archived discussions by making it impossible to know where they were pointing to? Diego (talk) 11:29, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Delete Cross namespace redirects are expensive. The archived discussions can be corrected. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
@UnitedStatesian: Not challenging the !vote, just out of a desire to understand: in what sense are this kind of redirects "expensive"? Deleting it won't take less space in the database, nor is the link so heavily used that it will affect trafic. Diego (talk) 11:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hovno

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:50, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Appears to be Hungarian equivalent word, but isn't mentioned in the article - we don't need redirects from every language. PamD 13:43, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Canadian stereotypes

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The result of the discussion was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 22:29, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Nothing in target article, nor at Canadians, about stereotypes - pointless redirect. Write the article, or section, first. PamD 13:36, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Vela Sierra

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The result of the discussion was retargeted to Project Vela. --BDD (talk) 22:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

No mention of "Sierra" in target article, despite assertion of redirect-creator that "Vela Sierra was one of the three components of the Vela Program". Please add that content, with a source, to the target article to justify this redirect. PamD 13:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

  • As the creator of the redirect, I suggest a retarget to Project Vela. You're right that the article Vela (satellite) doesn't mention the Vela Sierra component of the program, which is a major omission. Since I don't have time to fix this, a more appropriate redirect is to Project Vela, which mentions all three components of the Vela program (Vela Hotel, Vela Sierra and Vela Uniform). --Mtu (talk) 13:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, @Mtu:: I've retargetted the redirect to the section which discusses it. PamD 15:08, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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Political Synergy

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 19:54, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Term not present in target article. Capital "S" suggests this refers to some specific work? political synergy is neither a redirect nor an article. No apparent reason for this redirect: not an obvious synonym. PamD 13:20, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Rogue (brand)

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Note for myself as much as anyone else: Rogue is the disambiguation page in question. --BDD (talk) 18:58, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

No mention of term in target article. Note that the entry was removed from the Rogue dab page. PamD 13:02, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Individual One

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Thryduulf (talk) 15:34, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

No evidence in target page for this particular nickname/claim. PamD 12:51, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough - I'd searched for "Individual One" but I can see "Individual-1" as a valid target for a redirect. PamD 15:12, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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Heat wheel

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The result of the discussion was resolved. -- Tavix 14:20, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

No mention of term in target article. It may well be a synonym, but a sourced mention in the article should be added for this to be a useful redirect. PamD 11:43, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley:. Thanks for retargetting it. We need the term, or something recognisably the same, to be mentioned in the target article; everything in that target article ought to be sourced. I wouldn't demand a source for "Heat wheel" to redirect to "thermal wheel", as they seem roughly synonyms. PamD 12:56, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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Bacolod South Road

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The result of the discussion was article created. Thryduulf (talk) 00:22, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Original author's request; I need this namespace for the correct article. hueman1 (talk) 11:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

  • @HueMan1: you don't need to delete the redirect. If you already have a draft article, an admin can move it over this redirect when it is approved. Alternatively you can just overwrite the redirect with an article. Thryduulf (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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Throttle (musician)

Relisted, see Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 19#Throttle (musician)

Alight Solutions

Relisted, see Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Alight Solutions

Fuckload

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Wiktionary. Deryck C. 19:52, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Propose retargeting to Fuck or soft retargeting to wikt:Fuckload: current target seems unlikely to be related to search term. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 03:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Keep or redirect to wikitionary. A fuckload is indeed an indefinitely large number. The redirect is appropriate. We could have one for truckload and boatload too. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:23, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Doesn't really belong to the target article as it's not a number of any sort, just an indefinitely large quantity, usually not numeric - see here and the examples here. Now shedload and shitload are both included in the Oxford English Dictionary as "A large amount or number" (while "fuckload" doesn't get a mention): if this redirect is kept, there should perhaps be an addition to the target article to include all three of these terms. PamD 12:06, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
  • I once calculated a metric unit equivalent of a fuckton, but can't find that notebook now and it wasn't published anyway. It's colloquial, unlikely to have a formal definition. Keep or retarget per Headbomb. Ivanvector (/Edits) 03:53, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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Ivory 503

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:52, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Proposing deletion. This redirect is from a shortened name of an insignificant suite in a residence hall. Bsherr (talk) 01:59, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Mike, Lu Og

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:52, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

This redirect is in a peculiar format that doesn't contain the "and" or any form of the word (&) in its name. It seems unnecessary to me. Paper Luigi 01:23, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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