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trying to get me to stop using that word, because you can't. As I just told you but will reiterate yet again as you quite often miss the point—I missed moving that one redirect. If what I already intended to do is the same thing that you wanted, then that's not you getting your way and certainly not some kind of "victory" for you. That's just coincidence. Finally, I will not stop commenting just because you deem it the end of the story and you cannot stop me from doing so. Vindictive BS will and should be called out and you personally taking "offense" to it doesn't mean it needs to stop being said. Keep replying if you wish, I'll be back right after it with something else.
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Then that's your take. I don't think it's an attack, I called it like I saw it. If you don't want to be "attacked" or described as vindictive, don't do vindictive things. Your nomination of this redirect is what's really unnecessary here. Couldn't get your way the first time so you'll try it again.
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because I moved it. In all other cases you would have tagged it with "R from unnecessary disambiguation" like
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Oh buddy, I know what vindictive means, thanks. Hilarious trying to condescend to me like we're not all sitting at computers and even if we didn't understand the meaning of words, could not easily just Google them. I will call things like I see them, and I would call it vindictive again, so stop
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the deletion tag and tried to restart the article. This makes me wonder if the general conesus favors the article (so far, 2 keeps and 1 delete), then would it be appropiate to improve the article in any way. In general, I am neutual on rather to keep it, however Nate mentioned it is real, so I
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Thank you for your input so far. I would say the article is not quite ready for the article space, but the draft seems to be moving along okay for now. Since I made a few contributions to this, I won't vote one way or another, but I just wanted to answer some questions regarding quality.
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further on his or her rationale. Perhaps I misunderstood their rationale, or it was otherwise unclear. It's odd we have two fine administrators in disagreement with this redirect. I need further clarity before I decide whether to keep my !vote or change to "keep."
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I had to open up the collapsed discussion to understand Tavix's argument, but I still don't find it at all compelling. We only look at what's in front of us, and as things stand, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this redirect or its history.
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But I did 'get my own way' - you deleted the redirect. Don't use words you don't understand, Vindictive is an offensive attack on another editor. Now leave it. It's here for everybody to read, who started it and who responded. End of story.
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Actual show on the network's schedule per Mirror (it's mainly a Sunday/holiday series right now in the morning); the article wasn't good, but I'm not inclined to ask for a deletion of a redirect on a series that does air on the network.
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made a compelling argument as well. However, it seems the actual song isn't titled this, so it's an implausible typo and it also doesn't seem to follow our naming conventions with the artist's name in parentheses. As well,
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