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and not any random page on wikipedia. If we're not going to respect the intended targets of potential external links, then it doesn't make sense to respect external links at all; if anything, landing on a non-existent page is less misleading that landing on the wrong page. As for the page views, I don't think 30 of them a year is indicative of meaningful use. –
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was the best option. Now, if someone links to wikipedia, they intend a particular article, and unless you assume people would create a link without looking where that link goes (for such a bizarre title, that's difficult to imagine), the intended article is precisely the link has always pointed to,
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Are you saying that you were unaware that any text which appears immediately after the right-hand double square brackets of a Wikilink is automatically appended to the link as it apprears, so that one can write "]s" which will appear as
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Not mentioned at the target. An internet search would suggest that AMF Records is the name of an independent label based in London with no relationship to UMG. I would suggest deletion unless a proper justification can be provided.
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Respecting external links does not mean redirects are immutable, it means that someone following a link to Knowledge (XXG) should get article content rather than a blank page. Nothing about the redirect title or target makes it
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with the 'Varieties of the French language' nav box at the bottom -- but also with 'Vietnamese French' in the 'See also' section! So this was incoherent back in its 2005 conception and IMO the history isn't worth saving. —
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Correct. That's not intuitive to me, so it wasn't until I was copying someone's comment that used the shortcut that it clicked for me. Before I would always pipe it or create the redirect if I thought it plausible enough.
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There are no incoming links to worry about, but there is an odd page history. Is it worth saving? If so, the article should be moved to a more accurate RD name and the current title deleted. The original content
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Apparently this redirect was created because "dinosaurs are inherently awesome", but that is subjective and not encyclopedic. Either way, the target does not distinguish the awesomeness of dinosaurs. --
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Target article does not explain what writing lines is. Unless content is added (re-added?) to the article on school discipline, the redirects would seem illogical. Note that
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I think you're conflating two separate sets of considerations here. Plausibility is one of them, and if you see the redirect as plausible then yes, your retargeting to
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Good catch! Technically, keeping it as-is has the same effect because a double-redirect fixing bot would make the change soon thereafter. --
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per Tavix; I've restored the article, cut it down, and started rewriting it based on the sources mentioned in PC78's comment.
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Vietnamese French is a dialect of French spoken in Vietnam.
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relist to close a sizable (46 discussions!) log page. Per
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The redirect is in use as I used it in an edit summary.
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Uanfala (talk)
10:52, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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