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that, notability because people often assume what they thing a policy/guideline/essay might say in those cases, rather than reading it, and end up talking past one another. This is probably a particularly bad case because it'll encourage calling one anothers overly long explanations "clutter", which is quite dismissive. This is of course my somewhat subjective experience, but if it's just me, my argument won't carry the day anyhow.
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Of course, that kind of goes to the point I was making - linking titles in place of making arguments generally makes interactions less productive. CIVIL does emphasize to some extent the importance of explaining yourself and making coherent arguments. Argument by WP:SOMEDESCRIPTIVETITLE undermines
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spelling variant of Timothy, we don't require a comprehensive program of eth-redirects for every title in Knowledge (XXG) that happens to have a "th" in it. But even on a Google search, literally all I'm finding is a couple of Timothys trying to be clever in their Instagram usernames, which is not
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Not mentioned in target article, and only discussed in the context of an ancient Earl of Lennox who's name is referenced individually at a handful of pages. Was a stub article at one point, but the content of that stub seems to have been transferred between articles until the eventual result was
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While this term is mentioned once at the target article, this term is a generic one that can't be unequivocally reduced to a Middle-earth context. This redirect does have history that was merged to another article, but that other article was then redirected, so the content is no longer extant on
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That would need a separate RFD, but longstanding shortcuts aren't changed unless there are major issues with them, because changing where shortcuts points means also having to change everything that uses the old shortcut. A page being 'policy' vs a page being an internal award thing has no real
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and change the content of the page from an attack on people who threaten to leave the proejct, to a page on advice on why not to engage in such antics. We need more cleanup like that, both as to essays with shitty tones and non-humorous bad-attitude shortcuts, and P&G pages that have such
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for cut and paste moves, correct? My understanding is they can be necessary in many other cases, such as when two people create the same article at the same time or at different times (sometimes in different namespaces) and they're subsequently amalgamated and/or redirected.
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per Shhhnotsoloud, to the information we do have. Deleting redirects when we have information on the topic is both needlessly hostile to the readers and undermines the goal of writing an encyclopaedia. Without info to offer the reader, the first two ought to be deleted.
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Yes, I said I'd be OK with moving it as a second choice ... but the redirect titles you suggested are even more implausible (the Amulet of Yendor is a huge part of the game NetHack). If it was moved, the talk namespace would be a better location ... something like
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I was involved in a recent ANI discussion about cosmetic Talk Page edits by the creator of this redirect, which I don't feel was resolved particularly well. I think that a deletion discussion about this redirect risks being overshadowed by that dispute. -- a
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per the above. While the tiny section does mention the phrase "template clutter" (which is similar but not as broad), the section does not actually address "talk page clutter" as a general matter and serves only into introduce some background info on why the
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and quite specific sections were created. That is, anything that can be cited as actual advice is in section below this target, each of which already has shortcuts that are less designed to hand-wave in a negative manner with the
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pages and major essays so often have. I'm of the opinion that standoffish-seeming shortcuts should not be used except when the target makes it clear the intent is to be humorous and advises against using it otherwise (e.g.:
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of the guide on cut-and-paste moving (I probably should've linked it above). A move to another title as that page mentions would be my second choice for this redirect, but my first choice is still to leave it as it is.
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Confusing and unhelpful redirect to an overly specific example. "Political Department" can refer to many things, 1) Department of Political Science at many universities; 2) any of the pages listed at
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I agree with Graham87 on this one. Where there's a good argument to retain the redirect, as there seems to be in this case, we don't need to take any special action to preserve the history.—
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Okay, thanks, the redirect is somewhat implausible then. If you're fine with keeping the history attached to a redirect, what above moving it, without leaving a redirect, to something like
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likely exists to keep the redirect where it is, to maintain good editor-to-editor relations and to having unanimous consensus, other than the nomination, this is a reasonable approach.
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It's not ideal. The prior commenters have not spoken on it, and the way it is added makes it appear I propose to delete it. I think it would be better as a separate nomination. --
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including the redirect, but I have offered an idea about the edit history's location since other participants in the discussion feel that the edit history should be retained...
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Thanks, but maybe I wasn't clear enough ... there's nothing to restore now and nothing that needs to be done with the history. everything's fine as it is.
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WilyD has provided a much better explanation for what I meant by calling this shortcut argumentative. That's the issue precisely. Thank you. --
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geography. While a strict nosecount is evenly split in terms of deletion/retargeting, it's entirely a plausible alternate spelling and form of
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Concerning the name itself, this newly created shortcut is too argumentative. Concerning what it points to, it is the Purpose section of
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without prejudice to recreation in the future, of course, should a more suitable target emerge than to the Knowledge (XXG) homepage. --
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I think it is helpful, and would happily support a better target (maybe just the whole page itself and not the specific section). As
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which is merely background and contains no prescriptive guidance; it is very unlikely to be usefully linked to in conversation.
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Implausible typo and unlikely search term. I see no reason why a user would add a single parenthesis to the end of this term.
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Eh, I still think the redirect is useless as a search term and I don't yet see any strong argument to retain any content
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move happened. The edit history in the nominated redirect represents a batch of text removed from the target page in
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is no longer/not in the target article. In fact, if it were in the article, I would recommend that it be removed per
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This doesn't seem to fall under R3. R3 specifies "recently created", and this redirect has been around since '07.
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as he had no idea what I would support. I support your modifications, but we should take something this big to
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can't seem to help themselves from edit warring over their preferred version and remove longstanding advice.
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in the middle to a DAB page; not least because eth is a voiced 'th', not the unvoiced 'th' in 'Timothy'.
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Not sure why you can't just make this a disambiguation page without participating in this rigmarole tbh.
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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 19, 2020.
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targeted to a Knowledge (XXG) policy/guideline/information page than to a service award page. ;-)
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I restored/imported them to "NetHack/Amulet of Yendor", which is exactly where they should be.
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because it's not worth restoring the actual history revisions, or have they been restored to
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It can, you just typically need a strong case for it. Not sure that's the case here.
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Weird redirect, the concept of "Wikifiddling" doesn't seem to be described anywhere.
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shortcuts, especially if we already have evidence the shortcuts are being misused.
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for an R3, but given we're at one week now. This will be closing soon as delete. --
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the title of the moved redirect page should be. The one proposed by
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said, not sure I see how it is "argumentative" though. Cheers,
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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been restored, why do we want to keep this redirect again?
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Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion
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BDD
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14:34, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
NetHack/Amulet of Yendor
NetHack
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stats
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07:05, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
redirect with old history
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its former content
this insertion
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Glades12
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08:57, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
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WP:NOTFANDOM
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