2039:â The nominator is failing to acknowledge that prior to the aforementioned merge action, the article went to AFD twice within a year, the first closed as keep and the second closed as no consensus. They're also failing to acknowledge that they were the instigator of the first AFD and a preceding PROD, or that their contribution to the second AFD was to play dumb when others provided sources. Combining all that with the actions which were acknowledged here, this smacks of a long-term forum-shopping campaign intended to eradicate this one way or another in contravention of the originally established community consensus, otherwise known as a "backdoor deletion". You've chosen to ignore that the proper name of the strain is "Matanuska Thunderfuck" (acknowledged in both AFDs) and that
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