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you'll have to help me out to understand what part of attribution history is actually the problem here. The worst I can imagine is that there's entries somewhere in the history of army articles that says "Moved Foo to Arny of
Yugoslavia" and then the next entry later on says "Moved Arny of Yugoslavia to Army of Yugoslavia" and so on, but if we delete this Arny redirect history there's nothing in there that is relevant to article content, something that is copyrightable, something that needs to be retained to preserve attribution. --
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regarding vandalism is that we do not need to keep the attribution of edits that were both not made in good faith and reverted, and to my knowledge that has never been objected to by legal. Not directly relevant to your comment but worth noting that we also don't need to keep attribution for pages that have been deleted, which is why we don't need to worry about whether redirects deleted per G8 were made by page moves or not.
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If there's a copyright issue with content that is now displayed in a separate article, I don't see how it is possible for it to exist in the 50-odd bytes of this redirect's historical entries. Not sure how the disambiguation page factors into it, either, because it's unrelated content. I'm afraid
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