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Knowledge (XXG) of few vandals and flamers... but it's a slippery slope. At some point I am sure I'd have become so accustomed to blocking those whom I would see as vandals I would block an innocent user. This is why we have a rule that admins don't block those with whom they are engaged in a dispute unless there is no doubt they are trolls/vandals - and as I said, while Mt7 is far from a good editor, he is not a perfect example of a troll, neither. Darwinek should consider this and promise he will be more careful with blocking in the future (feel free to ask me or other admins to consider reverting or blocking dirsuptive users instead). That said, I fully support blocking Mt7 for his disruptive revert warring, and I assuming Darwinek admits he was too hasty to block this time and will be more careful in the future, I see no reason to consider penalizing him in any way. Admins, in the end, are just humans, and are entitled to an occasional mistake.--
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be insulting. But he is a pure vandal with no positive contribution to
Knowledge (XXG) and I see NO problem with insulting vandals. They insult our community with their behaviour. Block was caused by his persistent removal of official Knowledge (XXG) warning from his talk page. As for the recent Mt7 case: There is an extensive crazy and misleading discussion on this in WP:ANI. What else to say? If whitewashing the ethincity of many people is a "content dispute", then calling African Americans "niggers", "porch monkeys" etc. (kind of vandalism I frequently revert) is a content dispute, too. :(
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research without sources. Sometimes content dispution is hot and not far from strong words. But hot blood is a fuel for hearts, only machines has no blood, no feelings and no hearts. Every editor makes a mistake sometimes, if necessary short block should be ordered but don't throw all the
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Darwinek did well, if not he did wrong. But between the tens of edits, reverting vandalism from anons, requests from other users, how can one realize that simple edit, removing statement without sources, is disagreement and not a vandalism? When you spot someone changing
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Tulkolahten: He is my WikiFriend. We had both bad day then and indeed, I abused my powers against him. I apologized to him and we quickly reconciled. As for the block of Rostislav HedvĂÄek: Personal attacks? Yes, I cited various comments on him from CS Wiki and they could
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what will you do? Do you mark it as a disagreement too? No, of course, you will revert it as a vandalism and if the editor will continue you will block him asap. On the other hand if someone brings sources it is much different situation, but Mt7 did not. Even in good faith it is at least original
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dispute, not different disputes. The persons complaining must provide evidence of their efforts, and each of them must certify it by signing this page with ~~~~. If this does not happen within 48 hours of the creation of this dispute page (which was: 15:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)), the page will be
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article and several other similar cases. The issue in dispute was how to describe the nationality of this person: a 20th-century football player, agreed to be a
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