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1945:. This editor would never be given the slightest consideration as an admin if not for his role as WMF legal counsel. Look at his edits - and how many of them are to the articles about Godwin's Law, named after him, and the article about him. His administrative actions will not be subject to the scrutiny that any other admin can reasonably expect - threads on AN/I will automatically be dismissed as "Mike doing Office stuff" even if there is no evidence that is the case. I believe that WMF legal counsel should be automatically granted the software tools required for him to carry out his responsibilities; however, the Foundation as his employer is responsible for giving him those tools. We do not employ Mike Godwin directly or indirectly, and should not be permitting the Foundation to abdicate its responsibility as an employer. 2246:
admin access in arabic or chinese, simply because he would not be able to find his way around :-) In these cases, he will need to rely on trusted individuals to do the job for him. In my view, in the future, it should be the same on the english wikipedia. He will recommend a course of action, and someone will implement his recommendation. For now, it seems MUCH simpler to just give him sysop tools on all projects in a language he understands. It will gain everyone's time. But that's a Foundation decision. Not a community one. It should not be done by RFA.
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I do not understand what possesses people to get worked up over the RfA being here. It's a bit odd/misplaced; someone offered to nominate him, and he accepted, and it's a bit unorthodox but spending any mental energy getting upset about it is a waste. The process isn't sacred. Speedy close or speedy promote or let it run or whatever; from personal acquaintance I'd support him being an admin completely aside from him being the WMF attorney, because I believe he won't do anything unreasonable with the tools.
1990:, per answer to question 1. If you wish to have an sysop bit to deal with official foundation matters, request it from the foundation. On the other hand, if you wish to be an admin, and perform admin tasks such as speedy deletion, AfD closing, ect, then you need an RfA. This does not seem to be your intention, so I oppose on that ground. I don't foresee any problems with the foundation giving you a sysop bit, however, I don't believe you have the experience to be an acting administrator. 1797:- In a way I can see how it looks silly him being wikipedia counsel but without sysop privileges. But.. 50 edits in nearly three years? Not active enough. I can't really see how being a renowned web lawyer makes him essential enough for adminship unless he regularly edits wikipedia articles as part of his work.. which i doubt from amount of edits. What about conflicts of interest? Is anyone going to cross this guy? will he scare folk off from editing pages? I need more persuading. -- 1908:. If the Foundation wants to make you an admin, steward, or grand poohbah, then they should do so. Aside from that, this community has essentially no basis for judging your qualifications or experience (~100 edits?). So, let the Foundation do what needs to be done rather than having this community fudge things for a candidate who is obviously unqualified by any normal standard. This decision simply shouldn't be made at RFA. 1315:. I would like to note that even the oppose votes are saying they support him having admin ability in acts performed as wikimedia's lawyer. His comments and low edit count indicate that will be how he uses it. As for "wasting our time", you choose to edit this page. No one is making you. You waste your own time by editing this page if you feel editing this page is a waste of time. 779:- necessary and frankly, Mike is trustworthy, even if being an admin wasn't necessary. I would also urge the Arbitration Committee to consider granting Mike checkuser and oversight functions the role of Foundation Legal Counsel may require, should this RfA be successful and the Foundation not decide to create a separate account for Office and similar functions. 2054:. Since you are doing this instead of just getting the Foundation to sysop you, I must assume that they don't think you should be a sysop just because you're the legal counsel, or you think that you should be able to pass a regular RfA to get adminship. Thus, I must oppose for lack of experience, like I would for anyone else. - 1066:- It's needed for him to do his job. Also, Gustafson and Pschemp seem to have accidentally put their entries under oppose instead of neutral. That's the only thing I can imagine, considering that the text of their opposes seem to clearly indicate that they don't actually oppose the candidate's receipt of tools. - 1748:
What's that all about? If the Foundation means to give him the buttons whatever we say then just go ahead and do it. If they mean to honestly ask us if he should have the tools at this point then, sure, I'll give my opinion. I think Mike might be more effective as legal-counsel-admin if he first gets
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So I've seen this and been asked if he couldn't just have the admin bit granted to him in order to do whatever he needs to do. Well, obviously, yes; I think that should be clear to everyone that any staff who need particular technical capabilities for some reason or another may have them granted. But
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Furthermore, if legal counsel needs access to information, he may always request it from his client, the Knowledge (XXG) Foundation. There is a danger that legal counsel could become so enmeshed with the wikipedia project that he will blur the lines between legal representation and being the client
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I opposed due to the answers given by the applicant. If those answers were given by anyone else, there would be snowball opposition. If the applicant believes his official duties require administrator privileges, he should explain why he needs them. He makes no attempt to explain it. Instead, he
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I just want to point out that I've made far more than 50 or 100 edits. I've done the great majority of edits anonymously, because I have long been an advocate of the positive aspects of anonymity. Necessarily, my anonymous edits don't add to my reputational equity, and that's fine. But I don't want
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the admin tools (and no, I didn't accidentally place my !vote in the wrong section), because, quite simply, he must have them to do his job. However, as he does not have enough experience for me to yet be comfortable seeing him use those tools in the ways a regular admin does, I believe he should be
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Nice of you to interpret my response as anger though you seem to be confusing anger with logic. Here's my proposal. If mikegodwin agrees never to use admin tools should this fail, I'll take it seriously. Otherwise, it's just a waste of time because he'll have access to the tools anyway. You may want
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I didn't say he did. I can read the nomination. The circumstance is the same though. Unneccessary and wasting community time. Especially because if he doesn't pass, he'll get the tools anyway...so what's the point? People need to be writing an encyclopedia, not proposing silly things that are taking
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Brad Patrick was promoted by order of Jimbo; Mr. Godwin should be promoted by the order of the Foundation. He does not have the contribution record normally necessary for promotion, in my view. I support because this must happen, but I suggest a promotion by fiat for high-ranking Foundation people
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This is very interesting. We seem to have a general consensus, say 90%, that this should be speedily closed, and he should get the admin bit. But the people expressing this opinion and agreeing with each other are voting Support and Oppose and Neutral! This is where the "this is not a vote" business
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In my opinion, this RFA does not really make sense. We all perfectly know that Mike does not have sufficient knowledge of the community rules and policies to be granted admin access merely based on his activity as an editor. Most of you do not even know him, so how could you fairly support him ? If
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I like Mike's comment that he does not intend to use his admin bit very much, but instead his moral suasion—if only more admins were like that, when appropriate! I also would point out that, upon reviewing his talk page, I think he has been rather civil. I admit I have not had time to examine his
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I assume the thinking here is that we should retain the ability to say that every administrator attained consensus on RfA, rather than have an alternate procedure (however justifiable or hopefully non-controversial that would be in this case). Yes, it's probably not necessary, but it has at least a
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more often? I understand you are not familiar with all our conventions, and you don't have to, but the edit summaries can be rather important. Whenever you do some office action I believe it is good for it to be summarized in the edit summary and/or the talk page so that other people can understand
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I'm criticizing an extraordinarily poorly thought out rationale to oppose. Let's say that this RfA fails, and the board appoints him the admin bit later anyways. Suddenly, a whole huge casserole of drama is created by people saying 'But his RfA FAILED!' There's no reasonable negative outcome to
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power, opposers could prove that you're Hitler, and you'd still need the admin tools. And, given that you have 100 edits, we can't be expected to survey those edits and adequately tell whether or not you are Hitler. So, hmm, is there any Usenet meme I should mention in order to facilitate a speedy
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No, I didn't refuse any offer of automatic sysop privileges. It seemed likely from the first day I was hired (if not before) that I could have sysop privileges if I believed I needed them. But since one intrepid user asked me to formally apply, I thought, hey, why not? I believe I learn more about
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I cannot see why the Judge should need the keys to the Janitors cupboard. My main reason for not supporting/opposing is that there is far too little for me to make any decision upon; I strongly assume there is no reason to suspect they would be abused, but I cannot judge whether they will be used
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The one reason why he could get access to admin tools is that it will possibly simplify his job as legal counsel. The funny thing is that he is the legal counsel of the entire Foundation, so will have to figure out good solutions for projects in all languages. I doubt communities would grant him
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giving the legal council the admin bit, don't support this RfA. RfA is about evaluating a user to see if they can be trusted with the tools. I'm sorry but with just over 100 edits you really can't expect us to do that, the sysop bit for the legal council should be given by the wikimedia council.
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Sorry. There is no precedent for a bureaucrat to jump the process by promoting nor to remove as invalid. This should be an administrative issue and it is up to the candidate whether he wants to let this stand and accept the results either way or to withdraw and make what should be a reasonable
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Cute Chairboy. However, Mike is the Foundation lawyer, not the English Knowledge (XXG) lawyer. Is he requesting this on every other language Knowledge (XXG)? How will the other languages feel about it? If it fails, will he get the powers on all the 'pedias but en? My comments are in the oppose
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be used to assist him in his official capacity, and not to simply act as a regular admin. (It seems that's his stated intent anyway, and if I understand him correctly then we're in agreement anyway, but he doesn't have enough experience here that I'd have confidence in him deciding regular
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that is certainly one possible response. Another is to notice that Mr. Godwin has a certain reason for notability of his own and take the opportunity to make jokes, try to lighten the mood instead of darkening it. I, personally, think the second is more useful ... and more fun.
2013:, this guy's the lawyer" is absurd at the very least. I fail to see how being an employee of the foundation should be taken into consideration... on an RfA? Come on now, Jimbo and Mike are no more than a phone call/E-mail away. Just ask him for the bit if you need it, not us. 2135:
I have respectfully asked the candidate to remove this RfA and ask the foundation to have a steward or developer set the bit. Remember Danny's RfA. If this stands and doesn't reach consensus, it will have to be removed without promotion, and where would that leave us?
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Another consideration would be that the Foundation could poke itself in the eye if the RFA fails. His standing as legal counsel who failed RFA would not be good. If he were promoted by decree, then the record would show that he failed RFA but was promoted anyway.
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As I expressed below, this should not be here. Remember Danny's RfA. If the foundation needs Mike to have the bit, the foundation should direct it and not allow a situation where this RfA might fail and he gets the bit anyway. It would make trash of the process. --
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related issues. As a normal Knowledge (XXG) contributor, Godwin has been a part of the project since May 2005. Because of his experience as well as position within WMF, it is assumed that he has knowlege of Wikipedian policies and procedures and will abide by them.
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Per Cecropia. We are supposed to be working on an encyclopedia here. If you need some buttons for a purely technical reason as determined by the foundation just have them. Why are you using this process ? It's just a bit of software for goodness sake.
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Wow, a *Foundation Lawyer*? Well, we better go assign his Wiki God status ASAP! Uhm... no, still not seeing the need. If/when he needs a sysop bit assigning he can ask she who must not be named or ring Jimbo or he could always send a message to IRC!
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I corrected a quotation from the first issue of Detective Comics in which Batman appeared. It's easily my best contribution because it was a mistake that cried out to be corrected, I had the knowledge to correct it, and it remained corrected after I
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A note, he's been hired on as the chief counsel of the Wikimedia foundation. As such, he needs access to deleted revisions, the ability to protect and delete pages, and so on. While do this via an RfA is silly, that's the bag we've been handed. -
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have them. So why on Earth is he asking the community when he should just ask a board member or steward (who could also give him other powers outside of the ability of bureaucrats). If he wins, whatever, if he loses, he can get the tools anyway.
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I've been in minor conflicts regarding editing. My general pattern has been to hash out the issue in the Discussion areas and not be overly emotionally invested in the outcome. I think that's my strategy going forward. See also my answer to 1.
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Using the tools to perform your duties as legal counsel is one thing, and I approve of that fully. But until I see a demonstration of your judgment I cannot support giving you the type of discretion in non-legal matters admins are trusted with.
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Per Jeffrey and Pschemp. I mean really, if this guy needs the tools, then Jimbo or someone should just give them to him. Going through the normal course of RfA and then supporting based on the notion of "Screw all the criteria we give
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Actually, I'd much prefer it end with people at the Foundation getting a clue that we don't need or want an RFA to be run every time they hire someone. It's the willingness to run these silly RFAs that creates the drama.
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this, because he IS the counsel for the Foundation, so he's gonna get the bit. This was a silly RfA to make, but it's the cards that have been dealt, so it logically must finish w/ a support. Someone like pschemp who
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to be an administrator in part because of his position as legal counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation. As such, he should be able to use the admin tools for the legal good of the Project, such as protecting pages and
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our culture every time I participate in one of the cultural processes, and this seems to me to be a central one. I'm not worried about my legitimacy, which I think is fine even if I never use any admin powers.
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to give any of you the impression that I've been an inactive participant -- mostly I've signed edits where I thought it was necessary to indicate my possible bias (as when the edits involved "Godwin's Law").
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I made him sysop on english wikipedia, though meta interface. Why on meta ? First because I think I am not bureaucrat here :-) Second to make it clear it is a Foundation decision. You may close the RFA :-)
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So your interest is to essentially dismiss him as the foundation's legal counsel if the RfA fails? Since he needs admin access to do his job, that's the end result of your bargaining chip, and is absurd. -
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of precedents for removing RFAs from people with 100 edits as invalid. In fact, in my year and a half here, I've never seen a nomination of someone with that few edits that wasn't removed as invalid. --
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I hope to be involved in as little admin work as possible, invoking admin powers only on those rare occasions when it seems prudent to do so as a legal matter. I generally prefer moral suasion to admin
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needs the admin bit, being the Foundation lawyer, but since we are going through it, I would like to support his and WikiLeon's request, while noting what I have and have not had time to examine. --
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However, I'm not going to be a dick and go neutral or oppose because you obviously need the tools given your position, I just strongly disagree this is the right method for you to gain them.
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I've been general counsel for Wikimedia for three weeks. I'm not sure I follow the "only now" part of your question. Are you saying I should have applied the first day on the job?
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Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Knowledge (XXG) as an administrator. You may wish to answer the following optional questions to provide guidance for participants:
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why you did what you did (admittedly, you don't have to, your responsibilities are not to editors, but to Jimbo, but it would be nice, for the sake of the community). Thanks.
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have to give it to him. That's called a rubber stamp. That's not what RfA is for. If he's turned down here, he won't be allowed the tools by Wikimedia if he needs them? --
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he were losing his job in two months, would he stay admin ? Probably not, he would go through a RFA again, just as Danny did when he stopped working for the Foundation.
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Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
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work, this is the wrong place to ask for them. If this fails, do you propose he should not have the tools? Or do you want the Bureaucrats to do another "Danny"? --
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Per Jeffrey O. Gustafson. Support giving the tools because it is necessary as the foundation's legal counselor that he has them. Pointless to have a RFA for that.
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and can see that opposes just create drama aren't acting in a manner consistent with their experience with the project, and it's a shame. -
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There's no need to get into a long and drawn out discussion over whether or not this RfA should exist. We give him the mop and we move on.
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himself. Almost everyone knows the old legal saying: "He who represents himself has a fool for a client and an idiot for a lawyer."
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Not really. It means the action of promoting the person can't be attacked on process grounds, as due process was properly followed.
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Did you refuse an initial offer of automatic sysop privileges and then suggest the vote in order to acquire 'extra legitimacy'? --
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As I understand it, members of the community wanted to nominate Mike this way and he accepted. I don't believe he proposed this. -
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blocks/unblocks, closing AfDs, deciding on speedies, or using the tools to do anything but help with necessary office actions.)
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I'm not even sure what we're supposed to be evaluating. Are we evaluating if he should be an admin based off his track record
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below, but I'll leave my comment in the support section. I really wish this not have been taken to RfA in the first place. --
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a bit more experience under his belt as an ordinary editor. Add another 100 or 200 edits of experience and I'll support.
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the tools, he pretty much already has them. I don't like the idea of fully giving them to him (the case in this RfA).
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Are we asking to endorse whether or not the Foundation Attorney should automatically be an admin at en-wiki? I mean,
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Again this is unnessary, but that isn't a reason to oppose someone, he does need the tools more than most people.
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Please keep criticism constructive and polite. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review
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in the future. This RfA is unfortunate (especially in light of candidate's minimal record here) and unneeded.
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writes simply "I accept" and some cursory answers to questions. However, he can attempt to fix this problem.
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Oleg, I have been trying more recently to use the edit summary more often. I agree with your reasoning.
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It occurs to me, Chairboy, that one could argue this nomination is pretty pointy and disruptive too.
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Your comment highlights the foolishness of this RfA being here, Chairboy. You seem to be saying he
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needs to kick in, otherwise the distinction between the opinion and the vote becomes too clear. --
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How long have you been Wikimedia counsel for? And why only now do you need sysop privileges? --
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this candidate to gain the tools needed to discharge his legal duties for this encyclopedia.
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He could be given that 'deleted page' tool (with supervision) without the rest of it. --
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the "tools" to do his job. Why hasn't he been stewardised, anyway? As I'm sure Mr Godwin
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If he needs the tools to do the job, the foundation should have given them to him. Note
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Wow, the *Wiki God Status*? He really needs that! Jimbo might have his thunder stolen!
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giving our legal counsel the tools he needs to do his job! (sorry, couldn't resist =P)
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the sort of process-wanking that says this meaningless RfA is actually a good idea. —
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Comment - Speedy nothing! lets not whitewash hey. We either do it properly or NOT! --
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per Ryan Postlethwaite. Given that you're the foundation counsel, and someone with
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Matthew, your rationale is one of the most absurd I've ever seen. This guy is the
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because acceptance of this nom was clearly not well thought out. Nor was the nom.
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giving the foundation's appointed counsel whatever tools he needs to do the job.
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I agree the user needs the tools, but is an Rfa really necessary in this case?
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Clearly needs the tools to carry out the work they do. I am happy to support.
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certain symbolic value, and frankly there are worse problems to worry about.
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ACO permissions for use in office work. He's our lawyer, he needs them. --
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or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.
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Completely unnecessary nom. Mr. Godwin needs the tools, indeed, he
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Process for the sake of process just isn't right. If he actually
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closed by administrative decision of the Wikimedia Foundation.
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contributions. I think this process is rather silly, as Mike
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What are your best contributions to Knowledge (XXG), and why?
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in the support section and hope that makes everyone happy. --
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Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
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below makes an excellent point for one of these scenarios,
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also raises some really valid concerns. I'll just put my
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Who's talking about dismissing him as counsel? If he
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