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if another
Wikipedian has a radically different worldview or we think they're just plain out-to-lunch, they're still here trying to contribute in their own way. Remembering that point helps a lot. Still, I recently got frustrated over the deletion of the SIIEG project, which I thought served a legit purpose though it was certainly saddled with some destructive members. I took a pretty brief "semi-wikivacation", which basically meant a vacation from my watchlist. I explored new areas of Knowledge (XXG), found some new interests, and soon came back refreshed and ready to go! Still, I'll say this: I don't think it's appropriate for admins to use their admin fuctions in contentious areas in which they have an ongoing involvement, and thus I would not use admin functions in either Islam-related articles or animal-rights-related articles.
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more recent handling of this issue is evidence of my willingness to compromise: though in my non-wiki life I almost always spell out numbers under one hundred, in
Knowledge (XXG) I leave numerals between 11 and 100 alone. I only "correct" counting numbers under ten that are rendered as numerals. This was, in fact, precisely the position taken by those with whom I disagreed at the Village Pump! But since consensus developed around their position rather than mine, that's the standard I've adopted in my own edits. So I think this is solid evidence that my grammar/style fanaticism has matured into a desire only to make corrections that are consistent with those grammar and style guidelines that have been accepted by the Knowledge (XXG) community.
70:) is one of the most courteous and reasonable editors. He joined Knowledge (XXG) almost a year ago (exactly in January 28, 2005). He is also known for his mediating efforts between other users. He decided to have a wikibreak recently but because of his addiction he decided to come back with more positive energies. He simply deserves a new interesting experience in order to help at many issues and conflicts. He is very active in talk pages (articles and user ones) and I have no doubt about his merits as well as his capacities as an admin. I remember I had voted
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and forth at each other and it's all quite unappealing. Two months is not a long enough time, nowhere near in my mind, to demonstrate similar behavior won't surface again. Again, I applaud the effort by all concerned to bury the hatchet and move forward but I believe that some more time for reflection and proof of an even temperament are in order before being elevated to admin. I regretfully oppose. --
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work. I also acted on some move-to-wiktionary templates, and I would like to start doing more of this as I think we have too many such templates hanging around long term. Admin privileges aren't necessary for this, of course. Basically, I believe in the goals and vision of
Knowledge (XXG), and would like to use admin privileges in whatever way will further those goals and realize that vision!
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encyclopedia rather than rehashing the old battle. So I think that's a sign that we really do have the best interests of
Knowledge (XXG) at heart; though of course that doesn't excuse a catfight in the Knowledge (XXG) namespace, either. And p.s., as per Fayssal's comments, I've never had a 3RR violation; nor even come close, so far as I can recall! :-).
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about donkeys). I realized that such "jokes" were counterproductive, and there's honestly been no more of that stuff. Also, I think, my use of edit summaries has been near 100% for the past couple months, so hopefully I'm in-the-clear in that area. Thanks for reading, and if you have any more concerns or questions, please do ask!
1638:, which were contributed by a very knowledgeable Wikipedian from Madras who speaks English as a second language. There's still plenty of work to do there, but I think I made his wonderful contributions accessible to a much wider readership. Silly as it is, I suppose I'm proud of my "Louis Epstein Punctuation Patrol":
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Wikipedians settle disputes and interact with each other in a productive way. Except for the rare Willy-on-Wheels type character, we're all here because we're attracted to the idea of a universally available encyclopedia and we want to make that enyclopedia better. Even
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that once a day I would clean up after a very good but eccentric
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Guettarda, fair enough. I'd just say that I don't want to "cleanse" anything, per se, though I do think that some articles on religion tend to get weighed down by a celebratory POV to the given religion. SIIEG focused on Islam-related articles, but I've removed praises and honorifics from articles
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October to bury the hatchet and try to work together. However, it's been a mere two months since that happened and I wasn't aware of the incident until this round of nominations. I went back and read these comments back
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Knowledge (XXG) than I have seen pro-Muslim positions. I felt sickened by what I read on the SIIEG page, and while I do not hold you personally responsible
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A. Well, I already do a good bit of vandalism patrol and new pages patrol. The admin rollback button would be a wonderful help, making vandalism reversion a much less laborious process. Someone pointed me to the monobook fix that provides a rollback button, but it's a jerry-fix that doesn't always
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A. I've banished the sense of humor! Well, not exactly, but I've made sure not to use it in any way that could be viewed as inappropriate or as a personal attack (for example, when in the past I referred to the "hateful anti-donkey bigotry" of an editor with whom I was collaborating on an article
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1634:, I do lots of different stuff. I do a lot of copyediting: correcting grammar, spelling, punctuation, formatting, and so on. I feel that I've taken many articles with good content and made them much more readable. For example, I worked on some of the articles relating to
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to nominate wikipedians for adminship. Anyway, I am glad someone opposed so I can express myself (as truster and trustee), to say that only a few of Wikipedians (including admins) take care of what's going on on Islam-related articles. I nominated both
571:. When Babajobu edits a page on my watchlist, I don't even need to check it because I know it'll be well-written, relevant, NPOV, and sourced if necessary. Add to that that he's always civil and interacts well, and it's clear he'll make a great admin.
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if you want) users for adminship to make a balance and not to abuse their positions. I had a lot of talks in private with both users (refering to the nomination above) to make sure that both nominators become aware of the policies
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I don't know if I support or oppose. I can't support because I'm not too familiar with his edits with the exception of his Islam-related edits. I can't oppose because he might be a good admin. He has lots of patience.
1313:. I got their words. If not, the RfArb is there to judge if someone is abusing their power. I trust Babajobu as much as I trust Anonymous editor. Please, blame me if once you'd ever encounter any default. Cheers --
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I've had a chance to talk to Babajobu over the past few days and get to know him, I'm changing my position to support and am hopeful he will continue to demonstrate the attitude he's adopted since the dustup.
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I was very impressed by Babajobu's offer to "supervise" LE's punctuation at the Arbcom hearing. I do hope, though, that he doesn't get into many grammatical arguments anymore! :)
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Absolutely, AE, I appreciate the sentiment and I echo it! And I'll also say that I think our interactions in the past two months have been pretty good!
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for meeeh?! I appreciate your actions guys. There was no need for any RfC, RfArb or any thing of those kinds. Enjoy! You both deserve it. --
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but this time I am officially nominating him for the reasons stated above. Babajobu has around 4300 edits in 1637 different articles!!! --
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Passed my quiz on IRC quiz, and has managed to settle a fight with another user. Both show remarkable ability to handle conflict--
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1138:. As admin, Baba will be useful to the en.wikipedia community.
1311:(though I am sure both of them went maybe once to a 3RR stuff)
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Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
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354:- does he do good work? Yes. Will this help the wiki? Yes.
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896:. Kind and courteous. Will make a great admin. --
524:(edit confl) In all seriousness, not already one?
1358:- I found Babajou to be overly combative in the
1059:. Consistently writes helpful edit summaries. --
835:Yay! I found a sturdy rail on the bandwagon!
371:Actually, being a stickler for grammar is one
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1150:- Sounds like he could help us all out. --
438:. Calm, detail-oriented. Give him a mop.
169:- brill user! 16:45, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
677:Great user with a good sense of humour. --
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97:With much gratitude, I happily accept!
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996:Change to support, see below. --
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1114:, actually edits articles.
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116:- As nominator! --
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