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to their case as best I can and create a middle ground if it is just between the two of us. If it is a wider issue as diacritics seem to be within our project I tend to try and gather a concencus on the issue and then go with the majority. In general I am a pretty laid back person so I don't get too stressed over wikipedia as I use wikipedia as a fun way to spend time and maybe relieve stress. --
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RFA then you will see that people opposed because of the length of the answer to Q.1. My question says 'and would this be likely to happen again in the future?' this was the last and the most important part of the question, as I personally would not support an admin who is likely to take breaks of
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