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And nothing would be moved, just a simple supplement you dislike the idea of. "Being an admin requires good judgment. I believe GDonato has demonstrated a lack of good judgment." How so? Because he disagreed with you? He's allowed to have an opinion. The "judgement" was fine. "However GDonato did a lot of handwaving arguments to defend a really bad idea." Again, what bad idea? It's not a bad idea just because you say it is. I can't really see where you've explained yourself particularly from your comments. From what I have gathered is: you dislike the idea of a reference desk channel; you think liking it shows bad judgement; but you still haven't explained why thinking it is a good idea, is bad judgement, which is the main reason for your oppose.
101:, many of his ideas have helped the board run much more smoothly than the previous method - he is also a great help removing non violations from the board, the admin tools would allow him to block clear username violations. GD is an excellent vandal fighter and has amassed over 200 AIV contributions, his reports are always accurate and result in a block - when I see he has posted on the board, I can be confident that the user in question has been given sufficient warnings, he would be a great help at clearing the AIV backlogs. Likewise, GDonato's reports to
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can be seen as poor judgement, since it argues for the benefit of the channels, not of the project. Furthermore, I can see how eagerness "to move
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which is something that I have continued to do and intend to keep this up with in the future - I think that this is good work as it ensures that
Knowledge (XXG) remains a professional-looking project. I have helped the Biography WikiProject with assessment; assessing a great number of articles which
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Pardon me if I'm wrong, but the section header is labelled "Discussion", so we can discuss all we like :) I'll evaluate what you've said: "Seems too eager to move
Knowledge (XXG) functionality to IRC. We need less of that, not more." Your opinion. It has nothing to do with being an admin does it?
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so would be a great help on the page. Finally, GDonato is a really nice guy, he's got a good sense of humour which I think all admins should have - it allows better interaction with other members of the project. I ask that you help me give GDonato the tools as I am certain he will make a fine
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Friday, I know you know very well that's nothing to do with being an admin. This is probably due to the reference desk... Friday and a few other editors did not like the idea of a supplementary IRC channel for the desk, but GDonato did (among with others). This is simply a personal dispute.
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Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve
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No, and please stop putting ridiculous words in my mouth. I have explained myself. You disagree; I get it. I see little value in having lots of threaded discussion here.
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since I have reported there many, many times in the past and feel that I can perform well there. Also,
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per Mr
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without question. A good editor, a good knowledge of wiki policy.--
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Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
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