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not to say an admin should not be all those things. Adminship should be awarded to users familiar with our policy and who do not and will not abuse their powers. There are a good number of admins, but that is not to say we have enough, and there is no penalty to having too many trusted users who have proven themselves loyal and capable to the project. I believe that the tools should not be a reward for your friend, but more for someone who can be trusted to deal with issues fairly and quickly, which is the entire idea behind having more admins. I think that three months is a little bit short for my taste, but I support because I care not for time nor edits (hell, look at
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Knowledge (XXG)'s culture—it's hard to absorb all of how Knowledge (XXG) works without being here a certain amount of time.
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I didn't said admins were currently overwhelmed, more that we are growing and will need more if they are not to become overwhelmed, we are growing. I still personally don't 100% follow your reasoning as I still don't see any evidence to suggest those admins promoted in a situation similar to mine are
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While Pgk appears to be a tireless vandal fighter and I applaud that, I'm getting concerned about the vast number of recent elevations to admin for people who have only worked on the project for a few months and amassed a slew of edits because they are vandal fighting. I don't think edit counts are
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There is no simple answer to this as it will vary from case to case, but I consider any protection (semi or full) to be a last resort and as such should be removed as soon as the short term problem is likely to have been resolved. So for example a simple single vandal switching IPs and attcking the
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As I said, I don't think being on the project for three months is enough experience to be an admin, there's no policy or procedure on it, this is my own personal opinion based upon the results of several other elevations with a similar amount of time editing. I also don't believe we have a lack of
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I certainly appreciate that the vandal reversion is not an end in its' own right, it doesn't stand up on it's own, without the fundamental purpose of wikipedia (to write an encyclopedia) it wouldn't be necessary. I've interacted with various of the users and as some have noted I understand much of
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A. I'm probably most pleased with the contributions to RC Patrol, I've produced an alternative IRC bot to help with this and spent much time removing vandalism, tagging speedy deletes, copyvio's etc. It's also the area I am probably least pleased with since I signed up for an account with several
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I'm not entirely sure I understand your view point, to me the question on adminship is will giving the person in question admin rights have a positive effect on the project, of the recent admins I can see nothing to suggest any of them getting admin rights having any negative impact. I have done
1527:. Candidates who chase vandals and revert vandalism are excellent candidates for adminship. My experience is that the vandalism has been growing over the last months and RC Patrol has not scaled with it. We need all the extra hands, and Pgk seems to have eight of them all doing a marvelous job.
1377:. i appreciate Pgk's hardwork. admin tools will be of use to his/her work here. i don't understand the opposition due to limited time here. Pgk has been here for a quarter of a calender year. that is a long time in the wiki world. i feel pgk has a great understanding of how the community works.
1872:!), but because I trust that Pgk and others are able to use their tools well, understand policy, and are fair, and nothing else. Arbitrary concepts such as time and edit counts (within limit, of course), are of no value to me, and thus not a major factor in my descision. -
1778:"Don't believe we have a lack of admins" is not a rationale to oppose. At most it would be a rationale for Neutral. I'm pretty sure the majority of admins are not spending their time "wheel warring", and I'm not sure what Pgk has to do with this complaint of yours. —
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498:. Despite being around for 3 months, I feel in my gut that we can trust Pgk with the admin tools. I don't see a reason to make him wait another 3 months or whatever when he's already proven he has what it takes.
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Apologies it's not supposed to come across that way, I'm really just trying to find out if there is any more specific underlying concern, if the only significant concern is length of time then that's fine.
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was added to my watchlist several weeks ago, before the page was created. I am pleased that I've made it back in time to declare my strong support toward seeing this individual promoted.
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to be an admin. The response is that WP is growing and the admins will be overwhelmed. My response is I don't believe the admins are overwhelmed and that there are so many of them that
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420:. Yeah 3 months isn't long, but he's been a world of help with his new bot on IRC and I think he'd use his powers well. He knows when to block and when not to.
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Your username makes me think of the word package. And I don't think the 3 month point is a big deal. You've done a lot in a little amount of time. Bravo!--
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same article or two, should only be an hour or two. If it's still a problem protection can always be reapplied. --
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1544:. Sorry I am so late, other ongoing discussions have kept me away!
1299:, infallibly consistant use of edit summaries, created an IRC bot
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1559:. I appear to be late to the party as well. Blame the egg nog. --
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938:. Does good work; doesn't seem likely to abuse admin powers.
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1097:. Interacted with editor in several areas of wikipedia. --
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any more likely to get involved in wheel warring etc. --
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1045:I really really thought he was one. Long over due.
572:. Trustworthy editor, will make a great admin. --
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1389:Great user, an amazing amount of vandal-fighting.
388:Category:Orphan Administrators - w/o a nomination
282:(Remember, edits is not always the main factor.)
1121:. Another thought-he-was-one-already moment –
793:Works hard, keeps a level head, have a mop. --
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1193:. Thanks for pgkbot!--
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