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status--commits such major transgressions, the duty of every sysop seems clear to me. The main thought in my head was that if Stevertigo's unblocking himself was allowed to stand it would become impossible to justify blocking any user for revert-warring ever again without placing ourselves in a morally dubious position. After the whole fiasco several admins acted as though what Stevertigo did was no big deal, and that somehow the four of us who attempted to make him abide by community standards had acted improperly. That way cabalism lies.
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The above constitutes the bulk of my involvement in the matter; not even twenty minutes, all things considered. I enforced the block because it's my firm belief that admins are bound to follow the rules and conventions which govern the encyclopedia and the community. Stevertigo, near as I could tell,
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I appreciate all the support. Thank you for everyone who took time to read through all the various talk pages to figure out what was what. It would seem that there are problems with certain policies and how they are enforced, and I know Im not alone in this. I do request that people keep things in
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purposes (for the greater good, as he perceives it). Someone who doesn't understand the nature of admin powers is in no way qualified to wield them. A final truly disturbing point is his willingness to lash out against and even block third parties uninvolved in his edit wars — an attitude of "if
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Please make a section for your evidence and add evidence only in your own section. Please limit your evidence to a maximum 1000 words and 100 diffs, a much shorter, concise presentation is more likely to be effective. Please focus on the issues raised in the complaint and answer and on diffs which
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As such, it is extremely important that you use the prescribed format. Submitted evidence should include a link to the actual page diff; links to the page itself are not sufficient. For example, to cite the edit by Mennonot to the article Anomalous phenomenon adding a link to Hundredth Monkey use
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Be aware that the Arbitrators may at times rework this page to try to make it more coherent. If you are a participant in the case or a third party, please don't try to refactor the page, let the Arbitrators do it. If you object to evidence which is inserted by other participants or third parties
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It is highly unusual to introduce a party's own statement as evidence against him, but here it is necessary and appropriate. His statement shows that he is not only unrepentant but actually oblivious. He shows no understanding of the essentially janitorial role of adminship; rather, he truly
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The legitimacy of the system of administrators rests on the idea that adminship is bestowed by the community as a trust. Admins are expected to play constructive roles within the community–first and foremost, I should think, as the writers of articles. When a user--any user, regardless of
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I beg forgiveness from the Arbitration Committee for such a long summary (much of which repeats Curps' excellent statement), but I felt it necessary to explain my own actions and why I feel that the present situation is one of extreme importance for the future of the project.
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I agree with the comments made above by the other admins, especially those made by Mackensen. Administrative abuse is a very serious matter and should concern the entire community. I've seen no sign that Stevertigo wishes to accept blame or acknowledge his misconduct.
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please cite the evidence and voice your objections within your own section of the page. It is especially important to not remove evidence presented by others. If something is put in the wrong place, please leave it for the arbitrators to move.
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Finding that Stevertigo unblocked himself (again), and having already decided that the block for the 3RR violation was more than justified, I re-blocked with a somewhat stern note, and left an explanatory comment on Stevertigo's talk page:
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I did not block the other peson to break the 3 revert rule becuase it was not reported. 3rr violations can take up to 15 mins to cheack and as a result I don't really have time to go looking for them.11:03, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
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03:11, 7 August 2005 Michael Snow blocked "User:CJK" with an expiry time of 24 hours (Violation of 3RR on Vietnam War; Knowledge (XXG):Three-revert rule enforcement policy specifies that both sides are to be treated equally)
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20:50, 6 August 2005 Stevertigo unblocked User:Stevertigo (Mailing list does not work (refresh problem), and the block is unreasonable, given that there are discussions involving my perrson, and that I dont qualify as a
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20:35, 6 August 2005 Carbonite blocked "User:Stevertigo" with an expiry time of 24 hours (3RR violation on Vietnam War; Warning: Do NOT unblock yourself, use your talk page, email another admin or the mailing)
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could argue that Stevertigo was reverting simple vandalism. We've all seen, dealt with, and probably participated in POV revert-wars, but that doesn't excuse making close to a dozen reverts,
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has taken a number of worrysome actions, using his admin abilities inappropriately - especially by using those abilities to prevent non-admins from editing certain pages he created.
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Your edits are thinly-veiled editorializing on the side of the North and the Viet Cong. i'm not interesting in arguing this much longer; i assume CJK will remove your POV changes.
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On Apr 27, Stevertigo created a number of pages related to mathematical constants containing only external links (speedy deletion candidates) and then
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Anyone, whether directly involved or not, may add evidence to this page. Please make a header for your evidence and sign your comments with your name.
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Three other admins attempted to enforce the 3RR block anew, but Stevertigo unblocked himself each time, and temporarily blocked one of those admins (
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I unblocked for the purpose of filing a case at WP:RFAR against the accuser, whose only standing ATP was that he complained about 3RR before I did.
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is a mainstay used commonly, TFDing it is inappropriate, blanking it is even more so, and doing this all while it is protected is unacceptable.
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Stevertigo, quit threatening users. This isn't your soapbox or playground and you don't have the ability to ban users for disagreeing with you.
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and provide counter-evidence, or an explanation of why the evidence is misleading. Do not edit within the evidence section of any other user.
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20:56, 6 August 2005 Stevertigo blocked "User:Mackensen" with an expiry time of 24 hours (Excessive use of blocking powers, enforcer complex)
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20:46, 6 August 2005 Mackensen blocked "User:Stevertigo" with an expiry time of 24 hours (Re-instating block, and I WILL enforce this thing)
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In talk pages, Stevertigo made direct or implied threats to block those who oppose his point of view, or even those who merely criticize him.
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while the page was protected. This is bad form and I have rolled you back. Please wait till the page is unprotected before reverting.
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I don't know how many times exaclt he reverted all I know was that it was at least 4. i left my standard warning on his user page
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was taking the line that he was free to act as he pleased–I do not know what justification he claims. No objective observer of the
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Stevertigo stated that he was unblocking in order to file an RfAr against the user (CJK) who reported Stevertigo's 3RR violation
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20:52, 6 August 2005 Mackensen blocked "User:Stevertigo" with an expiry time of 24 hours (You are not above the law)
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This is when I became aware of the dispute; I began checking the relevant logs and pages to see what was up.
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No, of course not. Did I? But IAC, temp removing unhelpful third party commentors can be useful though.
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I blocked "User:Stevertigo" with an expiry time of 24 hours (3 revert rule (WP:3RR) on Vietnam War)
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was Stevertigo's primary opponent in the revert war, and the only other participant to violate the
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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Stevertigo&diff=20418173&oldid=20374306
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reverted that and left a polite message on Stevertigo's talk page (don't edit protected pages)
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20:57, 6 August 2005 Stevertigo unblocked User:Mackensen (ill be nice if you will)
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proportion and perspective, and not make adjudications hastily or absolutistly."
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tired of being reverted on baseless and unexplained claims like "redundancy"
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20:40, 6 August 2005 Stevertigo unblocked User:Stevertigo (saving comment)
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If you disagree with some evidence you see here, please cite the evidence
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When placing evidence here, please be considerate of the arbitrators and
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that he has reblocked Stevertigo and asked him not to unblock himself
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POV-based nonsense. Ive a good mind to block you for good measure.
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is one of the participants: he makes some initial edits to which
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/Stevertigo/Statement (
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CJK's violation during discussion of the report on Stevertigo.
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report a total of 12 (twelve) 3RR violations by Stevertigo. (
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was started. Many users sharply criticized his actions.
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This page is not for general discussion - for that, see
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believes he has been entrusted to use admin powers for
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admonishes Stevertigo for threatening to block users (
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This was previously deleted per TFD. 451:(3 revert rule (WP:3RR) on Vietnam War) 1180:Evidence presented by {your user name} 1066:to the existing template. Stevertigo 987:I keep this warning in my user space 7: 282:" with an expiry time of indefinite 449:" with an expiry time of 24 hours 422:" with an expiry time of 60 hours 386:" with an expiry time of 24 hours 359:" with an expiry time of 24 hours 332:" with an expiry time of 24 hours 318:" with an expiry time of 24 hours 28: 1068:reverted me at 01:45, 2005 May 12 908:. 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration
Stevertigo

talk page
/Workshop
/Proposed decision
User:Curps
Vietnam War
Stevertigo
Stevertigo
Vietnam War
Mackensen
Stevertigo
Vietnam War
Ta bu shi da yu
Ta bu shi da yu
RFC against Stevertigo
This RfAr
issues a statement
8 August
Ta bu shi da yu
User:Ta bu shi da yu
Stevertigo
User:Ta bu shi da yu
Ta bu shi da yu
User talk:Stevertigo

reverted
Ta bu shi da yu
02:48, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

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