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227:) is almost certainly a sockpuppet role account and its owner is unknown, it is impossible at present to assess Sortan's full role in the affair. Also, it is not fair on WP for a user to adopt a "John Doe" persona in order to bring charges against another. Therefore I request that the Sortan account is given a limited time in which to reveal whatever other WP accounts it has, and if it fails to do so be blocked until such a time that the request is met, 680:— when Arcturus and Jguk made this article the target of their anti BCE/CE campaign. Arcturus and Jguk were not adding or editing content, they were only mucking around with material other editors had added in good faith (what I mean is, if Arcturus or Jguk had added several paragraphs of informative text about the canonization of the Bible, I would take their dating preferences seriously). 551:
an abusive sockpuppet, to force changes both the ArbCom and the community have already objected. Every olive branch has been declined - instead they have used it as an excuse to attack. All that was needed here was a clear re-iteration of ArbCom's decision, together with a statement that all editors should be bound by it. Instead, I fear, this is about to get vicious.
380:) is on a mission to switch the date notation across WP to the BC/AD. He justifies it by a wide variety of reasons (some of which contradict others) and engages in wikistalking, ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments, intimidation and revert wars, in some cases against the consensus and even when explicitly told that some consider such changes inappropriate (as in 576:- Sortan is a sockpuppet that is used to deny responsibility for incivility, personal attacks, edit-warring, bullying and ignoring the ArbCom's previous decision. The real identity (by which I mean the usual WP username this editor goes under is unknown), but it is likely to be a prolific WPian, well aware of WP processes and very possibly an admin. 1113:"Both the BCE/CE era names and the BC/AD era names are acceptable, but be consistent within an article. Normally you should use plain numbers for years in the Common Era, but when events span the start of the Common Era, use AD or CE for the date at the end of the range (note that AD precedes the date and CE follows it). For example, 660:. In this discussion I mistakenly claimed that the BCE and CE had been used from the start (the computer I was using allowed me to see only a partial edit history). I now agree that the original stub used BC and AD. However, BCE and CE had been used in that article since September 2002. Whenever I added "BCE" or "CE" I was 712:
We had a vote and they didn't win. So Humus has decided that all "Jewish" articles should be changed to match his preference, even though his case was not supported when we voted on it. But it's insupportable that a particular ethnicity should "own" a set of articles. The same rules for all articles,
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for example, BCE/CE is used to describe the canonization of Hebrew scripture, and BC/AD for Christian scripture. This is a more or less stable situation. Now, one can argue that the article is inconsistent, using two systems of notation. Or one can argue that it is consistent, using one system for
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Before doing so, I'd like to say that, since ArbCom last decided this, I have been fully supporting their decision and encouraging others to do so. However, it appears that a small minority of users are not only unwilling to accept that, but chose to use bullying tactics, incivility and, in one case,
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It is clear after an intense discussion that there is no consensus to use BCE and CE uniformly at Knowledge (XXG), and no one to my knowledge now claims that it should be. The question facing the commnity as a whole and the ArbCom in particular now is simple: With respect to dating notation (BC/AD,
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Despite Jguk's assertion that he is merely following policy and wishes to avoid changing date styles, he has a history of selectively changing common era notation to BC/AD or eliminating CE when it is required for clarity's sake. On October 10 he made 3 attempts to eliminate the common era notation
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Moreover, I do not believe this should be the sole criteria. I think that if a majority, expecially a sizable majority, of editors who have been working on an article favor one system, we should at the very least respect them enough to assume that they are actingin good faith and have reasons for
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someplace else. Whatever formulation suits him at the moment, his changes are always from BCE/CE to BC/AD. Apparently, this activity goes back for months now, well before our first encounter. Even after numerous explanations and warnings by many editors (including even those who favor the BC/AD
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I do not want to address the specific conflict between Jguk and Humus sapiens. I do however have a question and a statement. Question: are ArbCom rulings considered decisions concerning specific disputes between specific partices, or more general findings concerning policy that apply to all
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reversions. He often cites "consistency" as an excuse when converting articles to BC/AD notation, yet when other editors do the same but instead choose BCE/CE, he immediately reverts and converts the article to BC/AD notation, ofter using a misleading edit summary. For example, in
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editors? I recognize that ArbCom findings in the past may be and often are relevant to conflicts in the present. But I do not believe ArbCom rulings in the past can themselves become general policy. Jguk seesms to be treating a past ArbCom ruling as if it were general policy.
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Please do not edit this page directly unless you wish to become a participant in this request. (All participants are subject to Arbitration Committee decisions, and the ArbCom will consider each participant's role in the dispute.) Comments are very welcome on the
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BCE/CE), are all articles "frozen," meaning, editors are no longer free to discuss, on an article-by-article basis, which dating system is most appropriate? Even if it were within the bounds of the ArbCom to make such a ruling, I do not think it is wise.
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The vote which was held about the idea to change all dates to BCE/CE, which was soundly and fairly defeated, also had no effect on the long-standing policy. Rejection of a proposal does not constitute consensus for the opposite
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is a set of guidelines governing appropriate editing on Knowledge (XXG). Editors are expected to follow the Manual of Style, although it is not policy and editors may deviate from it with good reason.
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Jguk and others have pointed to one criteria that is important: consistency within an article. I agree this is an important criteria. But this criteria can be interpreted in different ways. In
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more clearly illustrates his actual changes. As stated before, this same pattern is also repeated across many articles. Recently, he has taken to inventing policy to support his edits
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1) In certain cases a Knowledge (XXG) editor will tendentiously focus their attention in an obsessive way. Such users may be banned from editing in the affected area.
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to remove/convert over 300 articles using BCE/CE to BC/AD. After "returning", he resumed his previous pattern to enforce his stylistic preferences. He followed
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1) Jguk has changed the era notation on hundreds of articles which he does not usually edit to reflect his preferred usage BC AD, see for example his edits to
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Without going into the merits of individual edits, I would like to point out three things, lest we get sidetracked from what's important in this case.
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2) The regular editors of articles which Jguk has visited for the purpose of correcting the era format have objected to his efforts, see for example
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Slrubenstein and Jdavidb raise questions regarding the scope of the Jguk arbitration cases as they apply to editing by all Knowledge (XXG) users.
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My problem is when Jguk and others, e.g. Arcturus, specifically look for articles that use BCE and CE and try to change them. This occured at
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BTW, arbitrators who expressed an opinion on the issue should consider recusing, as should those who are partisan on this and related issues.
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1) Jguk may be briefly banned, up to a week in the case of repeated offenses, should he attempt to change the era notation in any article.
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for a complete list of his era related edits since his last arbcom case (which numbers over 300), in addition to his edits as an ip editor
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Choose the most logical option for the article as it evolves; if there's no logical option, go with the original author's choice, and
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I shall be reducing my time on WP in the coming weeks because of real-life commitments, so I am outlining my evidence now. It is on
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to take into consideration the subject of each article. For example, it is inappropriate to use American spelling in
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The whole thing is trivial and can be easily solved by a minor extension of software: just make ] display as
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1) Jguk is indefinitely prohibited from changing BCE to BC or CE to AD in any article, for any reason.
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different editors and against the clear consensus on the talk page). A similar pattern was followed on
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I got up this morning, checked my watchlist, and found that Jguk had completely removed "CE" from the
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1) Based on continued editing solely for the purpose of removing BCE/CE notation from articles (see
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either had no objection to using BCE/CE as appropriate, or used it themselves. There was
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or whatever according to user's preferences, exactly like we do now with dates.
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on SLR's proposal: I did not participate in that voting, and it is non-binding.
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Arbitrators will be working on evidence and suggesting proposed decisions at
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to change era style in numerous Knowledge (XXG) articles. He misinterprets
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not different ones for those that have vocal POV pushers working on them.
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4) On the matter of usage of years, the Manual of Style currently says:
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Reject. See discussion in the clarification section if you really want.
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their choice, reasons that the community at large may find acceptable.
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I am re-writing this section to outline the charges I wish to bring.
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notation), he still systematically misinterprets WP policies and the
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Jewish texts and the other for Christian texts, consistently.
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controversy over this issue until August 2005 &mdahs;
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I strongly reject: all WP articles are open to everyone.
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Attempts by others (starting from the end of July 2005):
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Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (4/1/0/0)
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can be changed by the Knowledge (XXG) community, see
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User talk:Jguk/Archive8#The current BC-BCE edit war
1096:) have engaged in edit-warring over date styles. 993:by those users who are familiar with the matter. 472:. He then went to engage in a revert war (making 189:Request for full clarification of prior decision 1144:Jguk banned from changing BCE to BC or CE to AD 396:"far more people will understand this version" 288:User talk:Jguk/Archive8#Accusations of "troll" 924:Passed 6 to 0 at 14:56, 7 November 2005 (UTC) 195:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/Jguk 105:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/Jguk 8: 977:Changing a guideline such as Manual of Style 501:made an edit, making the article consistent 1249:22:01, 11 December 2005 Nandesuka blocked " 1009:4) Regardless of whether editors break the 1183:10:55, December 7, 2005 Sam Korn blocked " 308:User talk:Jguk/Archive9#Dates on Jerusalem 197:, naming Fred Bauder as a nominal party. 52:. Evidence is more useful than comments. 745:The idea of "Jewish owned" articles is a 630:Statement by outside party (Slrubenstein) 539:Please limit your statement to 500 words 493:, the article used inconsistent notation 392:"I'm told the MOS mandates this copyedit" 241:Please limit your statement to 500 words 348:User talk:Humus sapiens#ArbCom's meaning 303:User talk:Jguk/Archive9#BCE again, again 18:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration 708:Statement by outside party (Grace Note) 694:I endorse this summary wholeheartedly. 601:Statement by outside party (Briangotts) 283:User talk:Jguk/Archive8#Date era style 59:and voting on proposed decisions at 7: 751:I did ask for ArbCom's clarification 1084:3) All the parties in the dispute ( 774:Statement by outside party (Zocky) 323:Talk:Kingdom of Judah#BCE/CE again 298:User talk:Jguk/Archive9#BCE, again 24: 1329:Knowledge (XXG) arbitration cases 829:Statement by outside party (Zora) 790:Be consistent within an article, 525:, (which also numbers over 300). 245:Confirmation that other steps in 668:. Other people who were adding 209:Request for temporary injunction 38:on 03:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC) 1005:Edit-warring considered harmful 798:don't make a big fuss out of it 588:- incivility, personal attacks. 462:, where after Sunray made this 343:User talk:Humus sapiens#Comment 30:on 12:54, 22 October 2005 (UTC) 1178:Record of blocks for violation 353:Talk:Hebrew calendar#BCE vs BC 328:Talk:Kingdom of Judah#Stalking 1: 1311:23:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC) 596:Statements by outside parties 1245:22:15, 7 December 2005 (UTC) 1017:to solve the issue instead. 904:14:06, 21 October 2005 (UTC) 895:20:13, 20 October 2005 (UTC) 886:23:25, 19 October 2005 (UTC) 877:14:39, 18 October 2005 (UTC) 868:10:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC) 845:19:00, 6 November 2005 (UTC) 824:10:13, 21 October 2005 (UTC) 768:04:24, 27 October 2005 (UTC) 721:05:10, 21 October 2005 (UTC) 702:13:33, 21 October 2005 (UTC) 689:15:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC) 625:04:03, 18 October 2005 (UTC) 530:18:35, 18 October 2005 (UTC) 422:07:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC) 232:18:03, 22 October 2005 (UTC) 150:Third parties joined by Jguk 99:Jguk recurrently engages in 1060:Reaction of regular editors 989:. 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration
Talk page
/Evidence
/Workshop
/Proposed decision
Humus sapiens
talk
contribs
edit wars
Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/Jguk
WP:RULES
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