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would be offered to you if you knew of all things related to POWER/PowerPC. but neither case is true. i really don't have a problem with the term aim alliance but in the context in which its used. to promulgate the belief that each member contributed 1/3 to the creation of PowerPC is a terrible injustice exacted upon the hundreds of engineers at IBM research, and marginalizes all previous endeavors in system design(system\360,AS\400,RS\6000,.........etc.) as wasted efforts. IBM never publicly disclosed the POWER ISA which was evolving from AS\400,RS\6000,system\360{199xAD), and later powerpc.I guest its easier to belief that it only needed about 50 engineers{i grossly exaggerated from memory,might be less} sent from
Motorola/apple to IBM research before the public unveiling of the PowerPC 601 to synergize IBM’s IP into what is now POWER/PowerPC. the facility which would become the center for research&development for the apple/ibm/motorola{aim} alliance was located at _____{either ibm research campus/motorola site i’m tiredLookUpSomTimeNever}.
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article, by labeling the its as "m"/minor, and subsequently pretending the issue has something to do with formatting. His actions are the definition of bad faith, in particular because the content edits in questions have been debated extensively in the discussion for that article, which
Alterego has chosen to not particpate in. I ignored Alterego's comments previously as the bad faith edits have been reverted, and he has thus far refused to justify in any way his completely inappropriate behavior, or participate in discussion over the content of the article. Once again even mentioning the MLA cover of the malicious editing shows a lack of remorse and a disinterest in dealing with any genuine issues involved. 00:49, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
1937:, however, Doctor Carr has acted highly pompous on this issue, and keeps removing the quotes calling them "frivilous" and alike. He has also then proceeded to take a shot at me for being of the youth division of the Liberal Party, "Anderson's joke lines, given out of context, are unencyclopaedic, no matter how amusing Young Liberals find them", and has tried to discount my ability to edit on the Knowledge (XXG). These quotes are in context, but it is impossible to let others view them when Doctor Carr keeps judging what are and what are not quotes. I am requesting another credible user mediate and set out what and what can be quoted and whether or not Doctor Carr has been acting pompously on this issue.
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established. Under the Hague
Service Convention, he is entitled to be served proper notice. As a website providing service in many Hague signatory nations (including the US, Canada, and Europe), wikipedia is bound by this treaty. Until such is done, Mlorrey hereby revokes Meelar/Firebug's further authority to initiate force against him or his edits in wikipedia. This is to be considered a temporary injunction/restraining order against further changes of his edits and all reversions committed by Meelar/Firebug since the date of this RFC must be reversed, until such time as an official Knowledge (XXG) mediator acceptable to both sides agrees to accept jurisdiction over this case.
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to engage in the dispute resolution process to solve the problem, as he is the only person who views this as vandalism. At that point, user 2005 quietly left the scene for several days, abandoning the discussion. Then he came back, presumably after others were not looking, and without attempting to reengage those who were watching the article reverted the MLA formatting citing, once again, vandalism in his edit summary. He is now attempting to lure other users into revert wars and is sticking to his claim that it is vandalism. For clarity, here is the definition of the term, according to
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avenues of dispute resolution before requesting mediation. The only reason that
Mlorrey's actions came to my attention in the first place is that Meelar opened a RFC against him, and I reviewed his edit history to determine whether I wanted to endorse it. After reviewing his edits, I determined that a number of them flagrantly violated Knowledge (XXG)'s NPOV policy, so I reverted them, and endorsed the RFC. I suspect that this request is retaliation for the RFC on Mlorrey's part. Since this situation began, I have made a compromise edit on
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2306:/VMX in PowerPC chips) were never (and still are not) a part of IBM's POWER design; the addition of SIMD units to PowerPC chips was mostly motivated by Apple and Motorola. Apple, one of the largest consumers of IBM PowerPC implementations, is heavily reliant on the SIMD instructions provided by the AltiVec units. I somewhat get the feeling that this user isn't doing a good job distinguishing between PowerPC as an instruction set architecture and PowerPC as the various
1576:. His list includes a mechanical engineer, a geologist, and a German teacher. I grant that these may be authorities on mechanical engineering, geology, and German, but they are not scholars of the NT. The only reason RoB calls them "scholars" is because he agrees with them — another example of his POV warrioring (at the expense of the quality of this encyclopedia, which of course requires good research of good scholarship).
2549:, who is a long-time IBM engineer that designed the System/38 and AS/400 architectures and has a lot to do with the design of the POWER/PowerPC ISA. Please read this to clear up some of your misconceptions since it is written by an actual IBM engineer and not some third party that can misconstrue facts.
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POWER, which first appeared in an RS/6000 ca. 1990, doesn't really even resemble PowerPC or what is now called POWER at all. I do not disagree that PowerPC is MAINLY IBM's doing, but it is not EXCLUSIVELY IBM's doing. By the same merit that it is unjust to say that all three contributed equally, it
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that does not have to be licensed from IBM to implement. You still haven't provided any counterpoint to this, or have provided reason why we should TOTALLY IGNORE Apple and
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Vandalism is indisputable bad-faith addition, deletion, or change to content, made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of the encyclopedia
Wikipedians often make sweeping changes to articles in order to improve them—most of us aim to be bold when updating articles. While having large
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Mlorrey has also previously requested that this be moved to mediation, but has not been notified of any mediator taking jurisdiction of this case via message or email. Therefore, this case cannot move forward, nor can the alleged co-plaintiffs take further action until mediation jurisdiction has been
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Since nothing further has been added to this, I'm going to change the CPU article to read "AIM Alliance" once more for the reasons I've outlined. I'll also try to revise the AIM Alliance and PowerPC article a bit in the future to explain IBM's prominant role (though the PowerPC article already does
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article when there are literally hundreds of other processor architectures we could list? PowerPC is a notable architecture, but it isn't any more important than the many many others I can think of. I have confronted the user with these facts and his only response is to re-add his edits, give me a
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brought concerning his behavior. As a result of the confirmation that not only I but several others have found our encounters with him characterized by extreme rudeness, resort to personal attack, and somewhat determined edit warring, I decided that mediation would almost certainly help, if TDC was
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has claimed that what I did was vandalism. Several people, including at least one admin, have informed him on the talk page that his conception of vandalism is flawed, and I explained to him that since he was persisting even in the face of several users and an admin that it would be necessary for us
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I'm afraid that I can't join Sam in requesting mediation, as the requisite steps that are supposed to come in the process prior to requesting it have not yet been attempted. I would therefore think this yet another example of Sam abusing wiki procedures whenever doing so would appear to produce the
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Knowledge (XXG) articles on the matter (PowerPC, AIM alliance) support my standpoint{which is also wrong}, not his. A handful of other users have also reverted his changes in favor of my own. I don't want to carry on an edit war, and would like to have this resolved nicely.
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where Ungtss has refused multiple attempts on the talkpage to work with him to resolve conflict. Currently I have been trying to work with him to gain an understanding of where to go with the piece on theistic realism, but his insistence that I don't know what I'm talking about is getting tiresome.
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I replied to
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You filed an RfC against me which I replied to. I filed an RfC against you which you did not reply to. You take refuge in invented techicalities and even reverted other people's contributions to RfC pages as a way to avoid answering what they wrote. I don't have time to play games with you. This
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Motorola and Apple, that is all. On a brief overview page like that, it is totally appropriate to say AIM alliance, and then on the more detailed pages elaborate that PowerPC was originally IBM's design, but was expanded some for use in lower-end computers, the original design re-named POWER, the
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uberpenquin wikipedia is a menagerie of dis-conjointed ideas and beliefs with the hope that future refinements will find an equilibrium between fact and fiction. i do not profess to be an expert on all thing POWER/PowerPC, but if i were you would respectfully allow my revisions, that same courtesy
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I provided a list of several secular scholars who dispute his existence. The current ratio of secular scholars who are skeptical vs accepting is hugely in favour of skeptical. IF he or anyone can provide a greater number of accepting secular scholars, then the article should be changed. If not, I
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loose terminology at best, and at worst totally incorrect. I'm not here to criticize your knowledge (only the edits you have made regarding the PowerPC article), but if you don't know what you're talking about you really shouldn't be insisting on your phrasing... In any case, you still have not
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Thanks, Wally -- I'd love it if El C and Sam could provide the names of some mediators they would mutually trust to handle the dispute. Also, if each one could offer a brief list of agreements they want to mutually agree upon by the end of the mediation, that would provide a good starting point.
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pages without any justification. Granted, detail is desirable, but not when a third or less of what he is posting will suffice to make the point. The volume of statistics he cites just makes the page unnecessarily long and makes it seem as if PowerPC is more abundant or plentiful than the many
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I'm happy to accept and take part sincerely should there be a mediator who thinks they can help resolve the issue. That is my only condition. However, I think it is important to note that my personal position is that it is premature (given that the standard procedures were not followed), and I
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I'm baffled as to why Mlorrey feels mediation against me is necessary at this point. Prior to that request, I had reverted a total of two of his edits, he claimed that my actions constituted "vandalism", and I reverted another edit. I don't feel that Mlorrey made a good-faith effort to use other
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Not surprisingly, Alterego persists in blatantly untrue actions. None of this has anything to do with MLA format. Zero. He used that pretense to make significant content edits to the article, and then tried to disguise this indisputable bad faith deletion, done under the cover of a protected
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I've been having this issue on the page for a while, but its getting ridiculous. The issue started during the Australian Election last year, when Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson made a couple of comments on the Australian Greens, in the form of humour but in line with how Anderson normally
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was not originally a 64-bit design, neither was PowerPC. What's more, you have things a bit backwards; IBM maintains a high degree of compatibility with the PowerPC spec, but that's because the ISA hasn't changed all that much since PowerPC64 was defined. Now, what was your point again? --
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The above mentions nothing about what particular debates or conflics the two users are having, and user:Kevehs seems to have been inactive for a couple weeks, only lightly active before that. Again, its unclear, other than accusations of incivility, what the points are. Recommend archive.
2164:, the quality seems to have improved in comparison to what he contributed in de:, however, I have good reasons to doubt the correctness. I don't know how you guys in en: handle this kind of problems, I just want to alert the one or other among you about this potential problem case. --
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and explain how any of these terms you are using describe improving the presentation of external links, something I do often. I don't understand your motivation here and I am not willing to engage in a revert war with you, as you were attempting to lure me (and others) into.
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In short, I object to RoB's knee-jerk reverting of any change I make to the article, without any consideration for process (explaining his edits, responding to my explanations). Moreover, I object to his knee-jerk POV warrioring, refusing to accept views other than his own
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Kev, I'm getting mixed messages from your post -- do you refuse mediation (on the grounds that you believe this is premature) or do you accept (I think mediators always hope good will come of the discussions they facilitate)? I appreciate your taking the time to clarify.
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provided justification for ignoring the significant roles that Motorola and Apple played in the birth of PowerPC. IBM holding the trademark means nothing, and while they did design most of what is now called PowerPC, it is by no means totally their creation. --
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for that term, the page became the target of heavy vandalism and was subsequently locked for this reason. As the page was getting a large amount of traffic, I asked politely in IRC for an administrator to unlock the page so I could format the external links in
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format, as I often do, even for featured articles while they are featured so that they are more presentable and professional looking. In the past, no one has ever complained, and people typically thank me for it as it takes some work, however, user
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apparently got inspired and added a similar segment to a lot of colleges which were then deleted from most of them, random murders of students by townspeople not being a big feature of life at MIT or for their admission process, for instance. See
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Ack! I'm so sorry, I'm such a fool for forgetting that... I reverted the articles again with a message requesting his presence here, and added a similar message to my talk page. Hopefully he'll see that and post his concerns here. --
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So what? Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds; that doesn't indicate anything about its Free status. It simply means that Linus has some legal leverage to somewhat control the use of the name. PowerPC is still an
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RoB says the list of scholars I provided are not secular, and thus irrelevant? This is a lie. RoB calls these scholars "non-secular" soleley because he disagrees with them. The scholars I listed are the most well-respected
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and now claim to want mediation after all. In other words, you wasted my time and then just walked away. I have no doubt you would just do the exact same thing here, again. You're playing games and we're going in circles.
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to do with PowerPC/POWER anyway, and the S/38 and AS/400 used a CISC architure called IMPI by IBM before Amazon was conceived and Belatrix was designed (and here the history and names get a bit convoluted). In fact, the
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It might be best to start with discussions on the talk page before coming to mediation, which as far as I can tell, Harro5 hasn't done for the Yale article at all yet. However, he has now said he'd allow the changes at
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I would like to comment. That is a most unfair summary of events so far. I have repeatedly objected to user Slrubstein removing parts of the article which he does not like and repeatedly reverting my edits.
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Note that both El_C and Sam Spade have agreed, to me personally, to undergo mediation in advance of this request. Both are eager that this problem should not reach arbitration. Speedy redress would be welcomed.
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I have tried my best to ask this user to justify his edits and have explained in detail why they are totally unmerited. Basically this user is trying to slant a few articles very heavily to PowerPC when it is
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First of all, the S/360, S/38, AS/400, RS/6000, etc were all architected long before PowerPC/POWER came along (and POWER was named retroactively anyway), so let's just get that straight. The S/360 has almost
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list of applications of the PowerPC processors (which, I might add, are applications of many many different types of CPUs), and post profanity on my talk page. The bulk of this discussion can be found on my
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I admit to getting annoyed, being called a vandal and all, but I still don't see link to MIT suicides as great justification for deleting section on Yale bladderball, frisbee, golf course, etc. with no other
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I have repeatedly asked Slrubstein for a list of secular scholars who, on investigating the issue, have concluded that there definitely was a historical Jesus Christ. He has yet to reply with any.
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built mostly upon IBM's previous work in that article, I have no problems. However, I still cannot see a justification for ignoring Motorola and Apple simply because PowerPC is MOSTLY IBM's. --
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results he desires. However, I will happily take part in this procedure if said mediator hopes some good will come of it, and perhaps it will help clarify the reasoning behind Sam's behavior.
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other CPU architectures listed. Could someone please assist here? I hope I'm not the only one who believes these edits are confusing and lend nothing of value to the articles in question. --
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experience has left me convinced you lack the integrity or competence to be an admin. As usual, you will insist on having the last word, so take your parting shot and then we'll move on. --
1485:. SR's criteria for "scholar" is someone who has a relevant PhD., teaches at a major accredited university, publishes books in academic presses and/or articles in peer-reviewed journals,
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I just want to make clear that I have not made a single edit to the 'content' of the article above the external links section, so please lets keep our discussion specific to that area. --
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Now, currently the AIM alliance article DOES indicate that PowerPC was mostly IBM's work, and if you'd like to clarify that further I wouldn't object whatsoever. What I object to is
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for details. No mediator has volunteered to take on this case yet.
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Should this be taken, Sam, to indicate you don't desire mediation?
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2008:Wrong. Philwelch started the RFC process, not me.
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971:TDC will be notified of this request immediately.
735:User_talk:Sam_Spade#A_Request_from_El_C_and_Myself
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1444:Thank you Stevertigo. How do we proceed? --
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1817:SR reverts
1797:SR reverts
1573:"scholars"
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1297:User:Harro5
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1005:Cimon Avaro
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864:immediately
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521:Objection 2
494:gun control
456:User:Meelar
2401:cores. --
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509:Objection
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568:February
2514:PowerPC
2478:nothing
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1598:reverts
1420:Andries
1388:neutral
1384:general
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1106:HELP!!!
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1033:Angela
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820:Google
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1974:AndyL
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1582:Talk
1499:Talk
1466:Jesus
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997:Bcorr
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830:2005
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