Knowledge (XXG):Talk page guidelines

2260:: if the linked-to page has moved, a talk page section has been archived, the link is simply broken by a typographical error, or it unintentionally points to a disambiguation page etc. Do not change links in others' posts to go to entirely different pages. If in doubt, ask the editor in question to update their own post, or add a follow-up comment of your own suggesting the alternative link. Only fix a link to a template that has been replaced or deprecated if the effect of the new template is essentially the same as what the poster used (otherwise, simply allow the post to 2206:, etc. Whenever a change is likely to be controversial, avoid disputes by discussing a heading change with the editor who started the thread, if possible. It can also sometimes be appropriate to merge entire sections under one heading (often preserving the later one as a subheading) if their discussions are redundant.In order to ensure links to the old section heading (including automatically generated links in watchlists, page and contributions histories, etc.) continue to work, one should use one of the following templates to 2142:: If a thread has developed new subjects, it may be desirable to split it into separate discussions with their own headings or subheadings. When a topic is split into two topics, rather than sub-sectioned, it is often useful for there to be a link from the new topic to the original and vice versa. A common way of doing this is noting the change at the end of the original thread, and adding an unobtrusive note under the new heading, e.g., 956:: The talk page is particularly useful to talk about edits. If one of your edits has been reverted, and you change it back again, it is good practice to leave an explanation on the talk page and a note in the edit summary that you have done so. The talk page is also the place to ask about another editor's changes. If someone questions one of your edits, make sure you reply with a full, helpful rationale. 1451: 143: 2202:: Because threads are shared by multiple editors (regardless of how many have posted so far), no one, including the original poster, "owns" a talk page discussion or its heading. It is generally acceptable to change headings when a better heading is appropriate, e.g., one more accurately describing the content of the discussion or the issue discussed, less one-sided, more appropriate for 2886:: If you put a post at the top of the page, it is confusing and can easily be overlooked. The latest topic should be the one at the bottom of the page, then the next post will go underneath yours and so on. This makes it easy to see the chronological order of posts. A quick way to do this is to use the "New section" tab next to the "Edit" button on the talk page you are on. 59: 3499:, and all discussion should ultimately be directed solely toward the improvement of the encyclopedia. User talk pages must serve their primary purpose, which is to make communication and collaboration among editors easier. Editors who refuse to use their talk page for these purposes are violating the spirit of the talk page guidelines, and are not acting collaboratively. 3197:: Talk page discussions should be concise, so if a single discussion becomes particularly long, it may then become helpful to start a subsection (to facilitate the involvement of editors with a slower computer or Internet connection). Since the main section title will no longer appear in edit summaries, choose a connotative title; for example, in the section 950:: The talk page can be used to "park" material removed from the article due to verification or other concerns, while references are sought or concerns discussed. New material can be prepared on the talk page until it is ready to be put into the article; this is an especially good idea if the new material (or topic as a whole) is controversial. 3173:, as it places their names prominently in the Table of Contents, and can thus enter that heading in the edit summary of the page's edit history. As edit summaries and edit histories are not normally subject to revision, that wording can then haunt them and damage their credibility for an indefinite time period, even though edit histories are 1205:, which fragments discussion. Instead, start the discussion in one location and, if appropriate, advertise it elsewhere via a link. If you find a fragmented discussion, consider moving all posts to one location and linking from the old locations to the new. State clearly in edit summaries and on talk pages what you have done and why. 124: 3351:

Before implementing a centralized talk page, consider first gaining consensus for your proposal. The main discussion would usually be on the proposed centralized talk page with notices on the pages to be redirected. Notices may be placed on related pages as needed; for example, a relevant WikiProject

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Persistently formatting your comments on a talk page in a non-compliant manner, after friendly notification by other editors, is a mild form of disruption. After you have been alerted to specific aspects of these guidelines (such as indentation, sectioning, and signatures), you are expected to make a

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of users editing in violation of a block or ban. Comments made by a sock with no replies may simply be removed with an appropriate edit summary. If comments are part of an active discussion, they should be struck instead of removed, along with a short explanation following the stricken text or at the

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But if anyone has already replied to or quoted your original comment, changing your comment may deprive any replies of their original context, and this should be avoided. Once others have replied, or even if no one's replied but it's been more than a short while, if you wish to change or delete your

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to the old template, as a broken post is preferable to one with altered meaning). Internal links made using full URLs may be converted to wikilinks or protocol-relative URLs (by dropping the part before the "//"), so that they will work across protocols (http:// vs. https://) and between our desktop

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talk pages. Users may also remove some content in archiving. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user; this is true whether the removal was manual or automatic, and includes both registered and unregistered users. Some new users believe they can hide

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So long as no one has yet responded to your comment, it's accepted and common practice that you may continue to edit your remarks for a short while to correct mistakes, add links or otherwise improve them. If you've accidentally posted to the wrong page or section or if you've simply changed your

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If a thread has been archived prematurely, such as when it is still relevant to current work or was not concluded, unarchive it by copying it back to the talk page from the archive, and deleting it from the archive. Do not unarchive a thread that was effectively closed; instead, start a new

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Often, there are a number of related pages that would benefit from one single talk page for discussions. For example, a list article may have grown too large and was split alphabetically. Or there may be a set of templates that are used together or interrelated MediaWiki interface pages.

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It is common to simply delete gibberish, test edits, harmful or prohibited material (as described above), and comments or discussion clearly about the article's subject itself (as opposed to comments and discussion about the treatment of the subject in the

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Cautiously editing or removing another editor's comments is sometimes allowed, but normally you should stop if there is any objection. If you make anything more than minor changes, it is good practice to leave a short explanatory note such as "".

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or similar templates. This normally has the effect of ending the off-topic discussion while allowing people to read it by pressing the "show" link. Involved parties must not use these templates to end a discussion over the objections of other

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There is reasonable allowance for speculation, suggestion, and personal knowledge on talk pages, with a view to prompting further investigation, but it is usually a misuse of a talk page to continue to argue any point that has not met

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editor may write a closing statement for most discussions, not just admins. However, if the discussion is particularly contentious or the results are especially unclear, then a request specifically for a closing statement from an

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Large talk pages are difficult to read and load slowly over slow connections. As a rule of thumb, archive closed discussions when a talk page exceeds 75 KB in wikitext or has numerous resolved or stale discussions – see

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Closing a discussion means summarizing the results, and identifying any consensus that has been achieved. A rule of thumb is that discussions should be kept open at least a week before closing, although there are

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Generally, you should not break up another editor's text by interleaving or interpolating your own replies to individual points. This causes confusion with who said what and obscures the original editor's intent.

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reasonable effort to follow those conventions. Other editors may simply ignore additional posts that flagrantly disregard the talk page formatting standards. You can also expect to have your mis-formatted posts

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or some even simpler variant. Do not modify the signature on others' posts for any other reason. If the user's signature contains a coding error, ask the user to fix the problem in their preferences (but see

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Do not create an empty talk page simply so that one will exist for future use. There is no need to add discussion warning templates to every talk page, or even to every talk page that contains a discussion.

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tab) is to provide space for editors to discuss editing that page. Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views on a subject. When talk pages in other

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To add an explanation of your change, you may add a new comment directly below your original or elsewhere in discussion as may be most appropriate; insert a comment in square brackets, e.g.,

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Please note that some of the following are of sufficient importance to be official Knowledge (XXG) policy. Violations (and especially repeated violations) may lead to the offender being

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are collaborative processes in which a reviewer may provide a list of comments on an article; most editors expect the responses to be interspersed among these comments. An example is

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template in your own final comment stating what you did. Adding one of these templates will help future readers to spot more quickly those issues that remain unresolved.

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by inserting a colon) when the link to a page on another language's Knowledge (XXG) is meant to appear inline rather than to serve as an interlanguage link for the page.

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While the purpose of article talk pages is to discuss the content of articles, the purpose of user talk pages is to draw the attention or discuss the edits of a user.

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templates (although some particular types of discussion, such as those which concern whether to delete or rename a page, have their own specialized templates) —

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about a controversial issue. They are a place to discuss how the points of view of reliable sources should be included in the article, so that the end result is

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might be used. If creating arbitrary breaks, ensure that sections end with a clear indication of the poster. (This method is preferable to using templates like

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is to move a thread of entirely personal commentary between two editors to the talk page of the editor who started the off-topic discussion. The template {{

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others' posts. Doing so can be irritating. The basic rule, with exceptions outlined below, is to not edit or delete others' posts without their permission.

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If a discussion has been so disruptive or pointless that it is better for editors to waste no further time even looking at it, the alternative templates

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There are certain types of notices that users may not remove from their own talk pages, such as declined unblock requests and speedy deletion tags (see

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is as applicable to talk pages as it is anywhere else. And your post is not more important than anyone else's, so it should not be in huge, purple text.

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comment, it is commonly best practice to indicate your changes. An exception to this rule may be permitted if there is only one reply and it invokes

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Check each talk page for subpages. These are usually archived discussions, but other subpages are sometimes created, such as drafts or reviews. See

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by inserting a colon) to prevent the page being inappropriately added to a discussed category. You may deactivate interlanguage links (e.g., change

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Although this section is specific to article talk pages, many of the general themes apply to all discussion pages that are used for collaboration.

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Even if you don't sign, it is impossible to leave an anonymous comment because your username or IP address is visible in the page history. Per

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but address the specific issue you want to discuss. A related article Edit, actual or potential, should be traceable to that Talk-page heading.

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after the previous discussion." Is that insertion, or emphasis? This problem can be avoided by deleting one word and then re-inserting it, as:

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These guidelines apply specifically to discussion pages which are used for collaboration, which includes just about all talk pages other than

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constitutes a change in meaning. It should be done only by the user who wrote it, or as otherwise provided in this talk page guideline.

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lines that begin with wikitext symbols for lists, because this increases the complexity of the generated HTML code and creates

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editor or admin formally close any type of discussion (not just RFCs), if any one or more of the following criteria are true:

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The record should accurately show significant exchanges that have taken place and in the correct context. This usually means:

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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templates should not be used by involved parties to end a discussion over the objections of other editors. For example:

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bottom of the thread. There is not typically a need to strike comments in discussions that have been closed or archived.

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subjects). Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article. Comments that are plainly irrelevant are subject to

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apply everywhere at Knowledge (XXG), using headings to attack other users by naming them in the heading is especially

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is only for typographical corrections, formatting fixes, and similar changes that do not substantively change content.

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critical comments by deleting them. This is not true: Such comments can always be retrieved from the page history.

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can be used instead, to produces a similar "closure box" around it, but collapsed to hide the content, as with

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When a more complex discussion has been closed, to discourage any further comments you may optionally use the

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Talk pages are for improving the encyclopedia, not for expressing personal opinions on a subject or an editor.

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Talk pages are generally created by clicking a red "Talk" tab and creating the page, like any other page.

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Ensure that involved editors realize that they need to add the centralized talk page to their watchlist.

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The length of user talk pages, and the need for archiving, is left up to each editor's own discretion.

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mind, it's been only a short while and no one has yet responded, you may remove your comment entirely.

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User talk pages are subject to the general userpage guidelines on handling inappropriate content (see

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At times, it may make sense to move off-topic posts to a more appropriate talk page. Another form of

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point out their mistake (referencing relevant policies and guidelines) and suggest a better approach.

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the issue was dealt with. If you took action yourself to resolve the issue you may instead use the

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that render material difficult to read. In this case, restrict the edits to formatting changes

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fixes: don't change list type, don't skip indentation levels, no extra spaces between replies.

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When an issue has been resolved without controversy, this may be marked simply by adding the

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You may request that an uninvolved editor formally close a discussion by placing a note at

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you have a certain opinion helps to demonstrate its validity to others and reach consensus.

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It is not necessary to bring talk pages to publishing standards, so there is no need to

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This page is about talk page etiquette. For general information about talk pages, see

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are still appropriate, but should be done with courtesy and reversed on protest.

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are often used for emphasis or clarity but should be avoided for long passages.

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It is recommended that an editnotice be created for the centralized talk page.

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in various ways are another borderline case and are usually best left as-is or

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may be used to highlight key words or phrases but should be used judiciously.

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The guidelines below reinforce the prime values of talk pages: communication,

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If you have a disagreement or a problem with someone's behavior, please read

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does the same while collapsing the references to reduce vertical scrolling.

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Archive current discussions on all the talk pages to be centralized; see

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Knowledge (XXG):User pages § Removal of comments, notices, and warnings

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on the User Talk page of a user who has posted an empty edit request.

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that you do not have. User access levels can always be verified at

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for promoting your views. The talk page is for discussing how to

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and preserve the content as much as possible. Examples include:

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template at the top of the thread, adding a brief statement of

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after your comment, to keep citations within your thread. See

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Repairing accidental damage by one party to another's comments

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Deactivating templates, categories, and interlanguage links

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