1541:. I must confess to a moment of annoyance for the same reason Grutness mentions, that the stub type appeared on /ST without ever having been near /P, (rather suggesting as it does a "stub sorting cafeteria" approach), but Johntex's immediately apologetic reaction reassures me this really was a just a case of partial familiarity. (I do wish people would read the notices, though.) OTOH, I don't see any grounds on which I would have opposed this, had it been proposed. The already approved split by US region is the more general fix for oversized parent, indeed, but that doesn't preclude further splitting, especially where there's a bona fide wikiproject. I've no objection to creating the precedent that reasonably-sized and -scoped stub types used by a wikiproject should be created; obviously we should strongly resist doing so for the majority of institutions, which will have much narrower scopes and populations. Given the name of the template, I do wonder if rescoping (and renaming the category) to include
1741:: King Stub himself has said so, after all. Anyway, I mention this not to re-upbraid you on "process" issue; I entirely accept it was done in good faith. Rather, my point is we certainly don't have a consensus that by-decade is the correct scheme, and arguably we have a pro forma consensus that by-type is (but as the two discussions happened in separate places, that would probably be overstating things).
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OK - I'll admit defeat on this one :) I'm still not entirely convinced, and my concern about it setting a precedent still rmains. I would, however, still like to see this one changed to cover all of the
University of Texas as per Alai - having a stub type for an individual campus is still too narrow.
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pre-existing type. It should never have been introduced for that reason, and rather "by aircaft type" stub types should have (and still should be) introduced instead. Notice that several of "the new system's" stub-types are < 50 articles, and always have been, so the first reason for nomination
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Someone knew enough about stubs to add this to the stub type list, but not enough to follow the instructions abou proposing stubs. Although this does have about 40 stubs, all of them are better classified elsewhere (every single one is a bio-stub of some type, to start with). No other university has
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then split into regions (and countries), so doing this isn't massively unreasonable (though one-dimensional-split purists will doubtless insist the two shouldn't ever "commute"). I also note we have a slight inconsistency in that the bios are split into "North
American", while the clubs are "US".
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I don't like the idea of deleting good work by a collaboration of editors. There is nothing wrong with the name, except for it being unproposed this is a potentially good stub category. I believe witht the wiki project we should make an exception to the article count...I will renominate in a month
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100 stubs already using this notice in its first day of use. Also, it is not true that every single stub is or will be a bio-stub. Finally, UT-Austin is not simply a campus of a university. It is the flagship institution of the UT system. It is one of the 5 biggest universities in the US by
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I'd have no objection to splitting the footy-stub parent by region as well either now or later (hell, there are enough things split by both region and variety), but if we did it would be good to keep it consistent. So I suppose this should be deleted for now, and we can revisit it later as to
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Thank you
Grutness and Alai - now that I understand the process, I will definitely follow it carefully if the need ever arises in the future. Regarding the name and scope - I have no major objection to broadening it, excpet that the category name currently matches the category name of the
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Johntex, do you think there'd be oppsition to rescoping this stub type to cover the whole of UTexas? The Austin campus stubs will still be easy enough to find in there, and if the scope of the wikiproject is eventually expanded, the stubs will already be sorted for you. Any thoughts?
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a noun phrase, and is used in the WP article as the
English name of the federal district, so that seems like a good rename to me. Northwest- vs. Northwestern-, etc, seems a finer judgement. Perhaps create redirects if people are liable to start using either/or. Eagle, see
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Classic case of a stub type created not for stub-sorting, but for categorisation -- this category is tiny, parent is smallish, permanent category doesn't even exist. Upmerge stubs, create and populate perm-cat. Maybe we need a stub-specific namespace or something...
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A rename would be an excellent idea. I don't think anyone in
Denmark / Scandinavia has the faintest idea about "footy" is supposed to mean (I read it as a misspelled abbreviation). "Soccer" is not ideal, but it's probably the only internationally recognized word.
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is equally curious. Bomber-stub was previously well over 60, and I have to wonder if there isn't ad hoc depopulation going on here, rather than expansion of the articles to non-stubs. Repopulate/resort, or if necessary rescope to "mil-aircraft-stub".
348:). Just give WP:NOVEL and it's members time to fill it up. Note, I am not proposing to keep all of the stub tags {-{Spec-fict-novel-stub}}. is an example. I am only trying to keep the types that my bot can reasonably find (vie
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measure of both enrollment and endowment. It is the first university here to have its own wikiproject and wikiportal. The project should not be punished because other communities have not yet formed around other campuses.
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for the non-supposedness of this. "We discussed this on some other page and decided to do something contradicting existing stub types and a current proposal" is a recipe for chaos, not useful co-ordinatation.
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in the United States if the category population is too small. Oh, and, by the way, nobody in the U.S. has any idea what the fuck "footy" is supposed to mean, but again, that's what redirects are for. —
1475:- I apologize for not being fully aware of the process for adding a stub, but that reflects only on me, and should not reflect badly on the stub and category. This template creation was discussed at
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its own stub type, let alone one campus of one. I see no reason why this should set a bad precedent by being the first. Granted, US-university-stub does need splitting, but this ain't the way.
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I must admit that "footy" isn't a brilliant name - they could all do with renaming, and - like it or not - soccer is the only term that would be known worldwide. Where I live, footy means
160:. that will make a catagory thats just about big enough and will keep the same sort of asteroids (beyond the main belt) in one place. saves mixing them in with inner solar system stuff.
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WikiProject. I suggest we leave it as is for now and see how the WikiProject evolves. The WikiProject is already touching on multiple facilities that are administered by the
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Two reasons for nomination. Firstly, there are not quite 50 articles, and secondly, it overlaps with the new(er) system of sorting aircraft stubs by date rather than type, so
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1304:....Uhhh....educate me...I plan to be here for a while and I don't get this at all. (someone show me the naming guidelnes please.:-) and whatever else I should know.
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Used on 11 articles, template is very poorly named (cryptic abbreviation, non-NC "-Stub"). Wouldn't a more sensible scope be US soccer in general?
1246:. The proposed name is more grammatically correct and avoids the British/American spelling issue. There are currently 162 stubs of this type.—
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Shouldn't that be a supercategory, then, if it's designed to be a split of that type? It's <400 stubs, so not really especially large.
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splitting by region. I note that most of these stubs are for football competitions - would there be any use for a footy-competition-stub?
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that was in effect at the time is misleading. Anyway, let's not argue over this, when it is not the subject of the discussion. --
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this is a brand new stub, created last week. It is underpopulated at the moment, but is associated with a known iwkiproject. --
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Yes, I'd say that's the best target category. I've also listed the other category you mentioned. --
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I've been here for ages, and I don't get it either. :) As far as I can see, "Central Russia"
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Football stubs aren't split by region. There are footybio, footy-org and footyclub.
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The bot just made its first edits in a sandbox, It will soon be ready!!!(hopefully)
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Johntex with the caveat that this does not count as precedent for later stubs.
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1479:. The stub and the category are both useful to the project. There are more than
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Sadly SFD doesn't yet have the authoritah to rescope
Wikiprojects, so that part
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if it's helping keep a fairly large hierarchy in some semblance of good order.
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738:. Obvious bad faith nomination. "One article"???? Try hundreds of articles! --
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should also be renamed. Actually, it may be better for consistency to create
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Sorry for the copy and paste...But the facts are basically the same:-)
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shows a completely different story -- definitely more than one. --
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shows a completely different story -- definitely more than one. --
1286:(ah, it's already here) and keep nouns in all of these templates.
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But please keep the existing names as redirects if it's renamed.
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would be ideal. Merge with any other stub types relating to
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Factually incorrect, cut'n'paste job from my nomination of
352:). Please give me some time...thats all I'm asking for:-)
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split. Used on 9 stubs. The corresponding main category (
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209:. Outer solar system asteroid stubs category deleted. --
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this nomination, and the one for US-tv-station-stub. --
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US-footy-stub would make a lot more sense than this -
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University of Texas at Austin
912:. Obvious bad faith nomination (like the above). --
853:Used on one article; there is some population in
705:Used on one article; there is some population in
1545:of the University of Texas would be preferable.
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560:Though to be fair, the footybios and footyclubs
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750:per everyone else (and as with my vote in the
1086:...If they are good I will change my vote:-)
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51:Category:Outer solar system asteroid stubs
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305:, please give me more time, 2-3 weeks!!!
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263:how many of these things are there?
442:category, I suggest you take it to
123:. Probably should do the same with
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1700:The proposal page is indeed
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