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191:. All of them concern quite obscure articles (about ancient noble families) and both VinceB and Squash Racket share the same, very specific POV: there were no Slovaks before 1918, only Hungarians, so there is no way these families could be Slovak. Since The Random Editor has left Knowledge (XXG), I cannot ask him to block this sockpuppet again. That is why I filed this request. Please see 589:
I denied your 'evidence' fair enough multiple times, so don't call me a sockpuppet neither here, nor in edit summaries, OK? Besides mentioning these 'new users', I defended my case in a number of ways, so please don't compare tactics here. I just wanted to point out that in obviously disruptive cases
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You still call those few little edits of that IP a 'shared interest in Jewish history'? You still want me to know about all IP address edits that were made when I wasn't even here in articles I never edited? You start to be ridiculous now. Once you say I only edit specific articles (nationalism), now
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should be cited here because this is not the first such attack against the same user. I think that Squash Racket is not VinceB. He is a Hungarian, who is obviously interested in Slovakia related topics (among others), but this not enough reason to call him sockpuppet. It seems to me that the real aim
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Look, other sockpuppets of VinceB have used the same tactics as you - to attack me and other editors as a means of their defense. I am somehow not surprised you are doing the same. Since you suggest there is some connection between me and four other accounts you mentioned, I encourage you to ask for
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Obviously anybody can make mistakes but I don't think that he is VinceB. He made many edits not related to Hungary or Slovakia. I don't remember that Vince was interested in the history of Catholicism, Izrael or car manufacturing. Squash Racket edited these topics and engaged into discussion with
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Zello, you share Squash Racket's POV and that is totally cool with me. I do not know whether you genuinely believe Squash Racket is not just another sockpuppet of VinceB or you are doing this because of our recent disagreement or you are trying to protect a user supporting your POV. But the rules
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Tankred will get away with this every time he tries it? How many times will he try to associate me with a user who did not respect any WP rules without being held responsible? Please also look at his edits just after he posted this next accusation and also the edit summaries while reverting to a
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An IP address makes some wikifying in an article I never edited(!) and you even want to use that against me? Based on your next accusation anyone could be associated with anyone here, especially those from the same nation. Who do you think is disruptive right now? You still don't understand
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No conclusive evidence these two users are more than just interested in the same material. Is it possible Squash is a sock? Yes, but I'm not convinced of it. Random Editor changing his mind also make me hesitant. More solid evidence is needed to convince me. No tction taken at this
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a checkuser. Both their and my logs are fresh enough. If you wish, I will be even happy to assist you with your request for checkuser. But this page is about you and your connection to a banned user. So, please do not try to divert the discussion.
305:. They made those comments after reading your POV accusation without asking me. They thought you were acting in good faith. MarkBA is a user supporting your POV, so according to your remark above you won't accept his opinion on the matter. 173:. This unblock only encouraged Squash Racket to resume his disruptive activities (he has launched edit war over several articles today) and patterns of VinceB's edits are now only more obvious. Please compare this edit by VinceB 252:
As an established Hungarian editor since 2005 I would like to express my opinion that in this case Tankred tries to solve a content dispute with force and sockpuppetry charges, intimidating a relatively new user. I think
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of these kind of constant sockpuppetry charges to make Slovakia related articles a no go area for Hungarian users and transform legitimate content disputes into "disruptive editing" which are actually not.
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No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user,
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and this page. For me, all the similarities between you and VinceB can mean only one thing: If a bird looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.
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prohibit banned user to edit Knowledge (XXG). As I know VinceB's style of editing and communication better than I ever wanted, I am certain he is VinceB. Several other editors agree with me
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and other people are more than welcome to check the evidence. I encourage other editors to compare Squash Racket and VinceB and decide this matter.
170:. Squash Racket was blocked indef as a sockpuppet of a banned user. But, later, The Random Editor decided to unblock him "on a probationary basis". 504:? You did not waste much time on analyzing the differences, even though you claim to be NPOV. People can form their own opinion after reading my 301:
The first two editors you mentioned have not voiced their 'agreeing' with you on that since they read my answer for your accusations on my
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at the 3RR board less than an hour after you asked me not to divert discussion and not to attack other 'editors' for my defense.
356:(the article I never edited) focuses on Jewish people moving to America anyway, as I can remember all my edits on the topic are 353: 442: 128: 446: 68: 509: 215: 203: 134: 462: 235:) every time he decides to act in an unacceptable way? That seems the only way to silence his constant POV pushing. 505: 302: 239:
The Random Editor promised to follow my edits closely and when I yesterday asked him why he was not doing it
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and you won't stop. What if we started to talk a bit about your similar editing patterns with banned user
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As you said you knew everything about Vince, because you were here then. Don't you know if he spoke
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Should I mention all the articles that I have edited and he (at least his real account) did not?
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your problem is having a wider range of interest. And you bring your 'evidence' for both.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry.
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In fact, VinceB and Squash Racket also share their interest in the Jewish history.
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OK, look at banned user's contributions. Let's see some articles he was
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He edited a wide range of articles (and I know nothing about the IPs).
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Also I would like to hear your theory about disruptive 'ducks' like
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you did not report anything, while you can't stop abusing me.
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If that is true, how do we know that you are not banned user
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I've already clarified this, so please read the talk page of
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who surprisingly jumped in recently supporting your POV
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483:People can form their own opinion after seeing 8: 429:involved in that I have not edited somehow: 515:. You did not answer if that 'duck' speaks 455:Slovenská pospolitosť - Národná strana 18:Knowledge (XXG):Suspected sock puppets 7: 360:-related, but check this one too. 451:Occupation of Vojvodina, 1941-1944 231:. I will have to call an RfC (see 24: 512:, especially how this all started 166:All the evidence can be found at 354:Jewish Colonization Association 176:with this edit by Squash Racket 443:Fidesz - Hungarian Civic Union 291:other users without conflict. 188:with this one by Squash Racket 182:with this one by Squash Racket 1: 639:16:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC) 614:05:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC) 602:05:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC) 573:04:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC) 555:03:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC) 492:19:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC) 478:17:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC) 412:16:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC) 386:15:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC) 365:04:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC) 325:16:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 447:1944-1945 Killings in Bačka 310:04:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC) 296:00:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC) 285:23:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC) 267:23:24, 6 October 2007 (UTC) 247:05:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC) 157:22:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC) 659: 548:without any previous edits 463:True Slovak National Party 40:for detailed instructions. 348:defend articles right now 195:for additional evidence. 606:Tankred, you posted this 508:and The Random Editor's 32:Please do not modify it. 350:made up by this vandal! 53:Suspected sockpuppeteer 467:Clash of Civilizations 185:, this edit by VinceB 101:Suspected sockpuppets 550:on Knowledge (XXG). 179:, this edit by VnceB 149:Report submission by 435:Vojvodina massacre 431:First Vienna Award 204:The Random Editor 650: 439:Ethnic cleansing 144: 123:deleted contribs 96: 75:deleted contribs 34: 658: 657: 653: 652: 651: 649: 648: 647: 646: 222:false statement 108: 60: 50: 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 656: 654: 645: 643: 631: 630: 625: 623: 622: 621: 620: 619: 618: 617: 616: 604: 591: 580: 579: 578: 577: 576: 575: 560: 559: 558: 557: 520: 495: 494: 472: 470: 423: 422: 421: 420: 419: 418: 417: 416: 415: 414: 395: 394: 393: 392: 391: 390: 389: 388: 372: 371: 370: 369: 368: 367: 351: 330: 329: 328: 327: 313: 312: 288: 287: 250: 249: 237: 236: 219: 218: 200: 164: 163: 151: 150: 145: 103: 102: 97: 55: 54: 49: 44: 43: 42: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 655: 644: 641: 640: 637: 628: 627: 626: 615: 612: 611:Squash Racket 608: 605: 603: 600: 599:Squash Racket 596: 592: 588: 587: 586: 585: 584: 583: 582: 581: 574: 571: 566: 565: 564: 563: 562: 561: 556: 553: 552:Squash Racket 549: 545: 543: 539: 537: 533: 531: 527: 525: 521: 518: 514: 511: 507: 503: 499: 498: 497: 496: 493: 490: 486: 482: 481: 480: 479: 476: 475:Squash Racket 468: 464: 460: 456: 452: 448: 444: 440: 436: 432: 428: 413: 410: 409:Squash Racket 405: 404: 403: 402: 401: 400: 399: 398: 397: 396: 387: 384: 380: 379: 378: 377: 376: 375: 374: 373: 366: 363: 362:Squash Racket 359: 355: 352: 349: 345: 341: 336: 335: 334: 333: 332: 331: 326: 323: 320: 317: 316: 315: 314: 311: 308: 307:Squash Racket 304: 300: 299: 298: 297: 294: 286: 283: 279: 277: 275: 271: 270: 269: 268: 265: 260: 256: 248: 245: 244:Squash Racket 241: 238: 234: 230: 227: 224: 220: 216: 213: 209: 205: 201: 198: 197: 196: 194: 190: 187: 184: 181: 178: 175: 172: 169: 161: 160: 159: 158: 155: 148: 147: 146: 142: 139: 136: 133: 130: 127: 124: 121: 118: 115: 112: 107: 106:Squash Racket 100: 99: 98: 94: 91: 88: 85: 82: 79: 76: 73: 70: 67: 64: 59: 52: 51: 48: 45: 41: 39: 33: 27: 26: 19: 642: 632: 624: 547: 542:Bruce95bruce 426: 424: 289: 251: 165: 152: 137: 131: 125: 119: 113: 104: 89: 83: 77: 71: 65: 56: 31: 28: 629:Conclusions 47:User:VinceB 135:block user 129:page moves 87:block user 81:page moves 510:talk page 506:talk page 459:Busójárás 303:talk page 257:but also 208:talk page 141:block log 93:block log 38:read this 530:Again444 524:Egapresu 519:like me. 233:that one 199:Comments 162:Evidence 117:contribs 69:contribs 570:Tankred 536:Again44 489:Tankred 383:Tankred 346:?? You 322:Tankred 282:Tankred 255:WP:BITE 212:Tankred 154:Tankred 636:Rlevse 595:German 540:, and 517:German 427:really 358:Israel 340:WP:HAR 259:WP:HAR 58:VinceB 634:time. 293:Zello 264:Zello 16:< 502:Juro 469:etc. 344:Juro 111:talk 63:talk 214:see 597:? 534:, 528:, 465:, 461:, 457:, 453:, 449:, 445:, 441:, 437:, 433:, 228:, 225:, 143:) 138:· 132:· 126:· 120:· 114:· 109:( 95:) 90:· 84:· 78:· 72:· 66:· 61:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Suspected sock puppets
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Tankred
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