191:. All of them concern quite obscure articles (about ancient noble families) and both VinceB and Squash Racket share the same, very specific POV: there were no Slovaks before 1918, only Hungarians, so there is no way these families could be Slovak. Since The Random Editor has left Knowledge (XXG), I cannot ask him to block this sockpuppet again. That is why I filed this request. Please see
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I denied your 'evidence' fair enough multiple times, so don't call me a sockpuppet neither here, nor in edit summaries, OK? Besides mentioning these 'new users', I defended my case in a number of ways, so please don't compare tactics here. I just wanted to point out that in obviously disruptive cases
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You still call those few little edits of that IP a 'shared interest in Jewish history'? You still want me to know about all IP address edits that were made when I wasn't even here in articles I never edited? You start to be ridiculous now. Once you say I only edit specific articles (nationalism), now
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should be cited here because this is not the first such attack against the same user. I think that Squash Racket is not VinceB. He is a
Hungarian, who is obviously interested in Slovakia related topics (among others), but this not enough reason to call him sockpuppet. It seems to me that the real aim
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Look, other sockpuppets of VinceB have used the same tactics as you - to attack me and other editors as a means of their defense. I am somehow not surprised you are doing the same. Since you suggest there is some connection between me and four other accounts you mentioned, I encourage you to ask for
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Obviously anybody can make mistakes but I don't think that he is VinceB. He made many edits not related to
Hungary or Slovakia. I don't remember that Vince was interested in the history of Catholicism, Izrael or car manufacturing. Squash Racket edited these topics and engaged into discussion with
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Zello, you share Squash Racket's POV and that is totally cool with me. I do not know whether you genuinely believe Squash Racket is not just another sockpuppet of VinceB or you are doing this because of our recent disagreement or you are trying to protect a user supporting your POV. But the rules
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Tankred will get away with this every time he tries it? How many times will he try to associate me with a user who did not respect any WP rules without being held responsible? Please also look at his edits just after he posted this next accusation and also the edit summaries while reverting to a
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An IP address makes some wikifying in an article I never edited(!) and you even want to use that against me? Based on your next accusation anyone could be associated with anyone here, especially those from the same nation. Who do you think is disruptive right now? You still don't understand
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No conclusive evidence these two users are more than just interested in the same material. Is it possible Squash is a sock? Yes, but I'm not convinced of it. Random Editor changing his mind also make me hesitant. More solid evidence is needed to convince me. No tction taken at this
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a checkuser. Both their and my logs are fresh enough. If you wish, I will be even happy to assist you with your request for checkuser. But this page is about you and your connection to a banned user. So, please do not try to divert the discussion.
305:. They made those comments after reading your POV accusation without asking me. They thought you were acting in good faith. MarkBA is a user supporting your POV, so according to your remark above you won't accept his opinion on the matter.
173:. This unblock only encouraged Squash Racket to resume his disruptive activities (he has launched edit war over several articles today) and patterns of VinceB's edits are now only more obvious. Please compare this edit by VinceB
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As an established
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No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user,
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and this page. For me, all the similarities between you and VinceB can mean only one thing: If a bird looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.
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The first two editors you mentioned have not voiced their 'agreeing' with you on that since they read my answer for your accusations on my
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