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That's correct, but printing isn't normally considered a modification, any more than displaying the picture on a black-and-white television screen would be a modification, it's merely reproduction to the best ability of the device. You're stretching the point. Gamma-correcting could well be
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We are using these images exactly the way the European Parliament intended them to be used, this is exactly why they released them, so that organizations like ours could use them to illustrate articles about the members of the EP. The only objection is that we are not allowed to draw
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Nuts. It didn't say "non-commercial" a year ago, but you are right, it does now. I tried to find the old copyright notice on the internet archive, and it's blocked from archiving. If the license is both NC and ND, that's not very free. Withdrawing objection.
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merely used "for primary identification", it is used as the person's official depiction in their reason for notability, and if the person wants to be officially represented in such and such a color scheme, so they should be for our article.
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The claim that we have to delete these pictures because they aren't free is casuistry, it is following the letter of the rules but ignoring their spirit. Keep, strong keep, because our rules are not meant to be silly, and
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Creator's page is full of image deletion warnings relating to this template, it is simply an incorrect template because it is designed for uploading non-free images of living persons, an activity prohibited by
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considered a modification, but I would similarly revert that, as an important part of the value of the picture is its status as the official picture for representing the person as a member of the MEP. It is
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Where do you get that, please? The license doesn't say anything of the sort, it merely says reproduction is allowed. Saying that means we aren't allowed to print it on black-and-white printers is a stretch.
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It doesn't need to say that. The way copyright law works is that everything not explicitly permitted is forbidden. They haven't allowed modifications, therefore modifications are forbidden. --
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moustaches on them. Well, if someone did that, we'd revert it as vandalism. The unedited form of these pictures is the official form, so that's the form we want.
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Very badly used, all the images in the associated category, are non-free images of living persons used for primary identification, and should all be deleted.
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Keeping this template (and images) is not only contrary to the policy but also contrary to the wish of the wikimedia foundation to make this a
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Images which are listed as for non-commercial use only, by permission, or which restrict derivatives are unsuitable for Knowledge (XXG) and
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I disagree with AnonEMouse's interpretation that the policy is not following the spirit of the rules as per what I said above and also
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To expand on your point #3: Not only are we not allowed to draw Groucho Marx mustaches on them, we are not permitted to
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nothing special about the copyright status of photos of New Brunswick politicians to warrant a specialiced tag. --
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For an image to be considered "free" under Knowledge (XXG)'s Image use policy, the license must permit both
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These images are clearly replaceable fair use, as they're all living persons & the images are non-free.
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as Chris points out, this would be used only on one article & it can be adapted easily into the
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as Chris points out, this would be used only on one article & it can be adapted easily into the
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they are free as in speech. Anyone can use them. They are released under a free license.
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provided that the entire item is reproduced and the source is acknowledged.
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Used on only 1 image page. Simpler to use the standard fair-use templates.
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single-use template, after substitution into main article, of course.
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encyclopedia. It is not simply a rule that can be discarded.
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All the images in this category are tagged for deletion now.
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